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Author Topic: Identifying Trichocereus pachanoi "PC" and "Real" pachanoi  (Read 70147 times)

husk

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Re: Identifying Trichocereus pachanoi "PC" and "Real" pachanoi
« Reply #75 on: December 08, 2015, 12:48:25 pm »

Two different clones, one in th e back that is more blue is the one I think has to be non PC with more confidence, to me the v notch is able to be seen but I would like other opinions.
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Re: Identifying Trichocereus pachanoi "PC" and "Real" pachanoi
« Reply #76 on: December 15, 2015, 07:15:44 pm »

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i would say both are non-pc
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Re: Identifying Trichocereus pachanoi "PC" and "Real" pachanoi
« Reply #77 on: February 14, 2016, 06:38:47 am »

hi  I just bought two nice pups listed as ....

San Pedro Trichocereus Pachanoi  Monstrose  GRANDE 11"  x 2/1/2" pup 

no signs of Monstrose growth but could come later or with pups ?

so what do you think true Pachanoi ?

looks a lot different prom my PC  san pedro from homexdepot
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Re: Identifying Trichocereus pachanoi "PC" and "Real" pachanoi
« Reply #78 on: February 14, 2016, 12:50:04 pm »

nice cuts those are real pachanois, cant say for sure which one, maybe altmans if it is monstrose it would be semi-monstrose which is common of that clone. does look a little different from altmans clone though.
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Re: Identifying Trichocereus pachanoi "PC" and "Real" pachanoi
« Reply #79 on: February 14, 2016, 07:03:50 pm »

Those look like the Altman's.

From what I've gathered from other growers, there are 2 Altman's clones that look incredibly similar. One grows normally and never shows any monstrous growth.

The other one can do lots of rib changing, show monstrous growth, and terminate in a variety of ways. 1) normal termination 2) "butthole" looking termination 3) crest termination.

As far as what is pictured above, I'm not sure which of the 2 clones they are. Either way, both clones make for gorgeous plants that grow fast and in relatively large diameter.
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Re: Identifying Trichocereus pachanoi "PC" and "Real" pachanoi
« Reply #80 on: February 14, 2016, 07:48:47 pm »

HEY  Thank You ! Chicsa and Happyconcacti  for the INFO .

 I hope  that they grow fast and to a relatively large diameter , as Happyconcacti  says .

I Also hope they Grow in  a STRONG  Spiritual way . I will have to read up on  Altman's ?

They will sleep now till spring .

Sending all who offered advice some Good KARMA .
THX
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Re: Identifying Trichocereus pachanoi "PC" and "Real" pachanoi
« Reply #81 on: February 17, 2016, 04:47:22 am »

I bought a cutting today I believe my be Trichocereus pachanoi   "Real" pachanoi  ?

WHAT DO YOU EXPERTS SAY ? Real ?

The cutting has more rounded ribs 7 .
It had just bloomed and the "HAIR" where it bloomed are almost black ?

 I believe  the hairs on a PC clone are white or light brown?

The cutting is from a ten foot cactus that was knocked down buy wind storm .

The cutting is "23 tip 7 ribs , below is a photo of cutting and another of the cactus blooming 10 days before storm.
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Re: Identifying Trichocereus pachanoi "PC" and "Real" pachanoi
« Reply #82 on: February 17, 2016, 06:50:43 am »

That is a "real" pachanoi, not PC  :D
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Re: Identifying Trichocereus pachanoi "PC" and "Real" pachanoi
« Reply #83 on: February 17, 2016, 05:05:40 pm »

thanks happyconcacti. sending you good karma`
 the the seller  had some nice big middle cuts . but my budget was low so I just got the tip cut .

I wish I knew more about its origins , per haps I will send the seller a message .

UPDATE: I asked the seller a few questions they did not know much about the cactus just that it was over 20 years old and indeed the hair around the blooms are black.
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Re: Identifying Trichocereus pachanoi "PC" and "Real" pachanoi
« Reply #84 on: July 13, 2016, 11:56:01 am »

Amazing, just an amazing post OP. I remember researching this subject several years ago. I just came back to it recently, haha.
The pictures sure are helpful but I couldn't ever ID them before. The one Phrase
Take note of the saw shape of the ribs, the upward facing areoles, and the consistant length of the spines.
I was looking for something this concise when trying to tell the difference between a clone x infinity and something new.
Thank you, who wants the same exact clone when there's so much variety?
I'll be looking into sources if anyone wants to PM me. :) Thanks


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husk

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Re: Identifying Trichocereus pachanoi "PC" and "Real" pachanoi
« Reply #85 on: July 18, 2016, 05:56:17 am »


 so I just got the tip


Just the tip.
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Re: Identifying Trichocereus pachanoi "PC" and "Real" pachanoi
« Reply #86 on: September 06, 2016, 06:38:38 pm »

ha  yes just the  TIP  and the checks in the mail ha
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Re: Identifying Trichocereus pachanoi "PC" and "Real" pachanoi
« Reply #87 on: September 06, 2016, 06:45:38 pm »

 .....!!!!!...ATTENTION...!!!!...  Checkout bellow LINK Super good link . GREAT Info !!



hey  NEW Wisdom you might want o review the info  in this esay on the PC issue  seems like  a very well thought out and researched essay .and possibly put link on your first post in this thread
see link .
http://trichocereus.net/the-pc-trichocereus-predominate-cultivar
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Re: Identifying Trichocereus pachanoi "PC" and "Real" pachanoi
« Reply #88 on: September 06, 2016, 07:54:27 pm »

 oops double
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Re: Identifying Trichocereus pachanoi "PC" and "Real" pachanoi
« Reply #89 on: September 19, 2016, 03:22:49 am »

I purchased my first two cacti for my collection and received them in the mail just a few days ago. I wouldn't mind having my pachanoi identified as well. The add specified they grew it from their own confirmed non-pc pachanoi. What do you guys think?
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