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Cane Blossom

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p.viridis leaf egde browning?
« on: July 23, 2013, 10:16:21 AM »

just today i noticed part of the leaf edge near the tip is starting to turn brown.

i haven't been watering too often, and the soil is decent.

my only guess is too much sun (many plants require shade cloth in this area), or not enough humidity.
as i type now, the humidity is 84%, but it is night, and the humidity lowers during the day.

the average humidity for this week is 59%.

i have no clue how much humidity is required, and found no detailed sources (not that i spent hours looking).

so i filled a shallow bowl with gravel, and filled that with water, and set the pot on top.  supposedly evaporating water will keep the pot more humid (i am skeptical, but if it works, its an easy solution).

and i moved it into a shady spot (where the morning glory and peppers are growing).

will this solve the problem?

or is it something else?
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Re: p.viridis leaf egde browning?
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2013, 06:41:47 PM »

Is this the mother leaf that is browning or the leaves of the new plant that are browning? Browning on the leaf edge could mean numerous things, poor watering habits: from over watering, or shallow watering (be sure to water enough until water flushes out the drainage holes each time), or it could be from using tap water (try using distilled or collect rain water), could be a sign of adding too much fertilizer and the salt buildup is burning leaves. It could also be a humidity thing as well, try to find a terrarium to use while it's still really small, than slowly introduce it to a less humid environment once it gets bigger, too quickly and it can be a shock to the plant.

A picture would help us better identify the problem

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Re: p.viridis leaf egde browning?
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2013, 10:23:38 PM »

it is the mother leaf.
i doubt fertilizer is the issue, as i am using a standard "all-purpose" potting soil, with no added nutes of any kind.

i have been giving it hose water, so i will switch to filtered, and see if that  helps as well.

pic attached.
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Re: p.viridis leaf egde browning?
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2013, 10:33:43 PM »

If the browning is isolated to only the mother leaf, and nowhere to be seen on the baby plants growing from it, than I wouldn't worry too much about it. After all, when the baby plants are big enough to sustain themselves, the mother leaf will die off on her own anyway.

Also keep in mind that it may also just be from the shock of having it shipped to you, if that's the case all it needs is time to adjust.

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Re: p.viridis leaf egde browning?
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2013, 10:40:48 PM »

i hope so.

i don't want to be responsible for the death of my new baby  :'(
(her name is Chokk.E.Rewna, aka Chokky)
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Re: p.viridis leaf egde browning?
« Reply #5 on: July 26, 2013, 10:07:35 PM »

the brown spot is spreading, and the babies have not popped their head above the soil..

i am getting more than just a tad worried  :-[
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Re: p.viridis leaf egde browning?
« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2013, 10:17:51 PM »

Can you post another picture including the entire leaf in the picture? When you first planted it, how much of it did you bury? I cannot see from the first picture.

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Re: p.viridis leaf egde browning?
« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2013, 10:56:33 PM »

I started a couple leaf cuttings of p. viridis a couple months ago. They ended up browning really bad.... even got a bit moldy. Over the past couple months they browned right down to within a couple mm of the soil level and it stopped there... I really thought I had lost them and was getting ready to toss em. I dug one out and to my surprise I found little roots! that was now about 3 weeks ago.. still no signs of leaves popping up above the surface but the browning hasn't advanced any more. So even if they DO keep turning brown.. don't give up on them as long as there's some green left.
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Re: p.viridis leaf egde browning?
« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2013, 05:50:35 AM »

When you first planted it, how much of it did you bury?
just BARELY enough to cover all of the roots (the rooted bottom of the leaf lies horizontal under the soil)
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Re: p.viridis leaf egde browning?
« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2013, 06:25:52 AM »

You've previously mentioned that many plants in your area require a shade cloth, if this is the case then I believe P. viridis would be one of those plants. If the average humidity is 59%, that might not be high enough while it's at this stage of propagation, consider putting it into a large plastic bag, or terrarium (green house if you have one) to keep the humidity at a higher average, if that isn't an option than try misting it.

Anyone else have any ideas?

Also, one of the things that P. viridis will do is teach you patience, it may be a few weeks until you see anything pop up (maybe longer), hopefully that isn't the case but it's known to be a slow grower ;) As long as there is green on the leaf it's still alive

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Re: p.viridis leaf egde browning?
« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2013, 11:50:54 AM »

i have it under the shade of the upstairs lanai (balcony).

i was told one way to increase humidity, is to take a shallow bowl, fill it with gravel and water, and put the pot on that (the gravel will keep it above the water, which will evaporate in the heat, supposedly humidifying the plant?)

so i am starting with this, but should it not work (how can i tell?) i will consider building a humidity tent.


i am far from losing hope..
i just don't like knowing the problem (makes it a tad harder to fix) :P
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Re: p.viridis leaf egde browning?
« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2013, 03:48:11 PM »

It looks like insufficient humidity to me. Cut the bottom off a soda bottle and place it over the leaf, digging it down slightly into the soil,  or find a ziploc bag large enough to hold the entire pot.  Be sure to leave a small opening to allow some gas exchange.

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Re: p.viridis leaf egde browning?
« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2013, 08:48:17 PM »

^^^
That's what I was thinking.
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Re: p.viridis leaf egde browning?
« Reply #13 on: July 27, 2013, 09:49:31 PM »

It looks like insufficient humidity to me. Cut the bottom off a soda bottle and place it over the leaf, digging it down slightly into the soil,  or find a ziploc bag large enough to hold the entire pot.  Be sure to leave a small opening to allow some gas exchange.

will try.
appreciate the advice.
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