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Author Topic: Tips and tricks for rooting, and some of the science behind it  (Read 17411 times)

Sunshine

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I realized while giving tips to another member in dm that my technique that I've pieced together had some really good information that I'd love to share with you all. Enjoy.

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The trick to getting a high strike rate on cuttings - these apply to kratom specifically, but I imagine it would work for other plants - such as coca or khat.

Anyway, the trick is bacteria and aeration. See, rot is caused by anaerobic conditions - lack of oxygen. There's a combination of things I use/do that result in almost NEVER getting rotting or a dead cutting, unless the cutting is already weak to begin with.

Ok so,,, always use dechlorinated water. I use fish tank water. It's pre warmed, oxygenated, full of aerobic bacteria from the filter oxygenating the water[this is key], and very lightly fertilized by the fish. Starting with water that already has this good bacteria seems to buffer the water and keep any other bacteria from taking hold - notably the bacteria that causes rot.

I use 50mL conical centrifuge vials. Generally I put multiple plants in each vial, the leaves tend to cover the opening, sort of sealing in the bacteria and keeping other stuff out [ presumably], and also helps prevent evaporation.

Another tip is to use fluval stratum. This stuff is magic. Kratom in water roots in about 5-6 weeks @ 70-75f 50-80% rh. With stratum I saw roots in as low as 4 weeks. Also by using these methods I was able to root very small, fresh growth cuttings off of kratom - something I was told is difficult when compared to more woody older growth.

Also worth noting - keep cuttings out of direct sunlight. High lighting is fine but you do not want to overdo it and dry them out. Maintaining turgor pressure is critical when they lack the roots and shoots to support themselves. I've been playing around with the idea of using distilled vs fish tank, as distilled is hypotonic, and while my fish tank water is 'soft' - around 100-150ppm dissolved solids, an even 'softer' hypotonic solution would naturally help the plant jam pack water into its cells and maintain a state of turgidity. Now that I think about it, doping the plant with a hypotonic solution such as distilled water prior to even taking cuttings could increase strike rate as well - as the plant will be in a state of turgidity when its cut and be able to handle more stress.

Air layering is another option, though I've never had luck doing it. I've also never had luck rooting in perlite, and a lot of people seem to like it...so who knows. Anyway, I hope that helps...

As always, if you spot anything in the above post thats obviously wrong or up for debate, please please point it out. I love being wrong and corrected - no ego here when it comes to correcting misinformation. Id rather be corrected and learn from it than someone just overlook it for fear of hurting my feelings. I would not be surprised if my learnings and reasonings are incorrect in the way I understand them, as I'm almost entirely self taught and tend to logically suss out the reasoning behind stuff.
« Last Edit: July 09, 2024, 04:15:34 AM by Sunshine »
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Re: Tips and tricks for rooting, and some of the science behind it
« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2025, 11:17:11 PM »

oiy thats very cool Sunshine I wonder if basically Life scienceyness? Hey, while off the topic, still social tho did yuhns notice that Evil spelled backwards is Live; I have been wondering how to figure out the anticedent to Evil if it exists; then again being alive can be filled with all its wonderous awrsomesness and still be super duper evil! Like.. there's examples yet I do not gwanna derail this thread too much simply to just bump it its always good

STS holds the awesome and intimidating might of gratitude and can be a form of reperations through gratitude be its haunting abscence or moreso the guardian Los Esperitus Dios de Muertos that many wonder if is Cognito Er Sum?.. (Real)
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Re: Tips and tricks for rooting, and some of the science behind it
« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2025, 11:20:16 PM »

Scarlet Rot Ms. Sunshine??
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Re: Tips and tricks for rooting, and some of the science behind it
« Reply #3 on: July 31, 2025, 11:25:18 PM »

Your "Methodology" is also key to curing diseases like HIV or AIDs, too[/size]
It has to get to RNA or DNA not an Atom persay; when you get to the atomic level you have gone too far.. into.. the size of it all so
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