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[Seed Collector]

I think we should have a section labeled "science".

STS is particularly focused on species with therapeutic, medicinal and/or psychoactive properties - species with ethnological significance.

I intend to follow the rules here. There are a couple of rules that should be remembered for this thread:

*No Discussion of Illegal Activities. This includes topics like trading or smuggling illegal goods and materials, and discussions about procuring, preparing or consuming scheduled compounds.

*No Extraction Talk. Discussing methods of extraction of psycho-active substances from plant materials is not allowed in STS.

Please spread all the information contained here around as much as possible; Please download and distribute.


https://www.dropbox.com/home/Cannabis+https://www.dropbox.com/s/gkf42j1ttv2xr6t/Cannabis.rar+https://www.dropbox.com/s/4l6cty9bxpnl7im/Cannabis.zip

^ Cannabis and Cannabinoid Scientific Literature.  [some keywords: cancer, apoptosis, and the word suffix "oma"]

[Seed Collector]

"Scream 'till the walls fall; dissolve all the limits" -- Flobots.


https://www.dropbox.com/home/Cannabis+https://www.dropbox.com/s/gkf42j1ttv2xr6t/Cannabis.rar+https://www.dropbox.com/s/4l6cty9bxpnl7im/Cannabis.zip

^ Cannabis and Cannabinoid Scientific Literature.  [some keywords: cancer, apoptosis, and the word suffix "oma"]

[Seed Collector]

https://www.dropbox.com/home/Cannabis+https://www.dropbox.com/s/gkf42j1ttv2xr6t/Cannabis.rar+https://www.dropbox.com/s/4l6cty9bxpnl7im/Cannabis.zip

^ Cannabis and Cannabinoid Scientific Literature.  [some keywords: cancer, apoptosis, and the word suffix "oma"]

[Seed Collector]

https://www.dropbox.com/home/Cannabis+https://www.dropbox.com/s/gkf42j1ttv2xr6t/Cannabis.rar+https://www.dropbox.com/s/4l6cty9bxpnl7im/Cannabis.zip

^ Cannabis and Cannabinoid Scientific Literature.  [some keywords: cancer, apoptosis, and the word suffix "oma"]

That is most of the relevant information that I have.

^ Share Those Seeds   



Time to get this situation changed, so spread the word.

[New Wisdom]

Wow! Thanks for this! 

[Shpongle Lover]

Wow.  The study showing the benefits of the combined treatment of Gemcitabine with cannabinoids in inhibiting the growth of
human pancreatic tumor cells really got my attention.

Awesome information.

S.L.

[Seed Collector]

Wow.  The study showing the benefits of the combined treatment of Gemcitabine with cannabinoids in inhibiting the growth of
human pancreatic tumor cells really got my attention.

Awesome information.

S.L.

Thank you for checking it out.

I have known several people that found out they had cancer. Two individuals are my neighbors; one has approximately 5 places in his spine that have been damaged by cancer, yet could not get any cannabinoid treatment prescribed, nor recommended (if he were to desire such option). My state is not a medical cannabis state, and my state also does not even allow for the "medical necessity legal defense". only jury nullification, and that is not a preferred option for a cancer patient.

Spreading these pdf's will go a long way toward improving this situation for others.

In America approximately 1/2 of one gender gets cancer, and 1/3 of the other gender gets cancer (so I've read).

Cannabinoids could be a safe alternative to chemotherapy   <--- That is not medical advice.


I believe only if people look at these studies will they truly see the importance of such a medicine.


https://www.dropbox.com/home/Cannabis+https://www.dropbox.com/s/gkf42j1ttv2xr6t/Cannabis.rar+https://www.dropbox.com/s/4l6cty9bxpnl7im/Cannabis.zip

^ Cannabis and Cannabinoid Scientific Literature.  [some keywords: cancer, apoptosis, and the word suffix "oma"]

[Shpongle Lover]

Cannabinoids could be a safe alternative to chemotherapy   <--- That is not medical advice.

Good thing, because it is not correct.  If you read the study you will find that the real advantage of the utilization of  adjuvant cannabinoids is that certain cell lines are particularly resistant to Gemcitibine.  These show a marked increase in sensitivity to the drug with the addition of cannabinoids.  Consequently, if you are unlucky enough to have that particular tissue type tumor, the addition of cannabinoids MAY help.  Cannabinoids alone are most definitely NOT a safe alternative to chemotherapy!

Further reality check:  This study was done in mice.  While they are a good human analog, they are most decidedly NOT human, and AFAIK, there have not been any human trials showing any benefit... yet.  This study, and others like it will most likely result in an eventual human trial.  Because of ethical concerns, medicine has traditionally been, and will likely continue to be, one of the slowest progressing areas in all of science.   

S.L.

[TBM]

It's gonna be really hard to get the funding for a study on cannabinoids effects on tumors involving people when it's illegal on the federal level here in the USA... those studies will probably be started in other countries first, unless one of the states like Colorado or Washington can preform a study involving humans.

[Seed Collector]

Many illegal substances can be prescribed and studied here (though likely difficult).

Since Cannabis and cannabinoids are Schedule I substances, they are claimed to be "of no currently accepted medicinal value", and it is harder to do studies of these substances; even harder to study than more dangerous drugs.  "of no currently accepted medicinal value" is clearly not really the case, even if I don't go into the cannabinoid treatment of seizures.

There are enough studies already done about anti-tumor effects of cannabinoids, and seizure treatment with cannabinoids to change the minds of almost any person.


Please make with the downloading.


https://www.dropbox.com/home/Cannabis+https://www.dropbox.com/s/gkf42j1ttv2xr6t/Cannabis.rar+https://www.dropbox.com/s/4l6cty9bxpnl7im/Cannabis.zip

^ Cannabis and Cannabinoid Scientific Literature.  [some keywords: cancer, apoptosis, and the word suffix "oma"]

[Seed Collector]

Please note that it cannot be oversimplified, for that would undermine the cause. Below is my official "bump".

I was just pointing out 1 of the best points I can for why I do not find the following statement valid (the official position) : "there is no currently accepted medical use for cannabis/cannabinoids" <-- I do not find that valid, and I don't think others would either if they did see the evidence. More study would be great, but I believe it can clearly be medicinally beneficial, and has never killed anyone that used it- so it should be treated that way worldwide. I did not make the statement "weed cures cancer" but cannabinoids shrinking tumors is certainly worth talking about, especially if people want to be free to choose their own medicine. I want to see studies with human trials with various cannabinoids, and also human trials with juicing raw cannabis. I will openly admit some of that stuff is over my head, but more study and then a layman's version would be fantastic.

I believe the full understanding of the cannabinoid/health relationship will only develop after we are free. I strongly feel no anti-tumor agent should be illegal anywhere within the USA, and I think we will be free faster if this is openly discussed.


https://www.dropbox.com/home/Cannabis+https://www.dropbox.com/s/gkf42j1ttv2xr6t/Cannabis.rar+https://www.dropbox.com/s/4l6cty9bxpnl7im/Cannabis.zip

^ Cannabis and Cannabinoid Scientific Literature.  [some keywords: cancer, apoptosis, and the word suffix "oma"]

[TBM]

I believe the full understanding of the cannabinoid/health relationship will only develop after we are free. I strongly feel no anti-tumor agent should be illegal anywhere within the USA, and I think we will be free faster if this is openly discussed.

I agree, that statement applies to everywhere on a global level, not just USA

[New Wisdom]

"No accepted medical value" but yet the FDA has patents on cannabidiol.  Haha.  Very hypocritical.

[Seed Collector]

Cannabinoids could be a safe alternative to chemotherapy   <--- That is not medical advice.

Good thing, because it is not correct.  If you read the study you will find that the real advantage of the utilization of  adjuvant cannabinoids is that certain cell lines are particularly resistant to Gemcitibine.  These show a marked increase in sensitivity to the drug with the addition of cannabinoids.  Consequently, if you are unlucky enough to have that particular tissue type tumor, the addition of cannabinoids MAY help.  Cannabinoids alone are most definitely NOT a safe alternative to chemotherapy!

Further reality check:  This study was done in mice.  While they are a good human analog, they are most decidedly NOT human, and AFAIK, there have not been any human trials showing any benefit... yet.  This study, and others like it will most likely result in an eventual human trial.  Because of ethical concerns, medicine has traditionally been, and will likely continue to be, one of the slowest progressing areas in all of science.   

S.L.

Shpongle Lover,

I just noticed this post... I have read into a number of these studies, not just 1 (most are downloaded 1 time; idk who that 1 was).

Maybe I missed something, please enlighten me... I am aware that these studies are in mice and/or petri dishes. I am under the impression that studies of this using human cells in tissue culture have been done. I know this is not exactly the same as human trials. Dosage, route of administration, which cannabinoids, etc. may need more study, but I'm comfortable in what I have said so far.

I ask you to explain the comments "Good thing, because it is not correct." and "Cannabinoids alone are most definitely NOT a safe alternative to chemotherapy!"

If the bulk of this evidence suggests different than I am implying, I want to know.

I said may... and I stand by it so far.

I will openly admit some of that stuff is over my head, but please explain where I am wrong.


https://www.dropbox.com/home/Cannabis+https://www.dropbox.com/s/gkf42j1ttv2xr6t/Cannabis.rar+https://www.dropbox.com/s/4l6cty9bxpnl7im/Cannabis.zip

^ Cannabis and Cannabinoid Scientific Literature.  [some keywords: cancer, apoptosis, and the word suffix "oma"]

[PermieGing]

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I posted this in the shoutbox... But just in case noone saw it

Its entitled "cannabis is a vegetable". And i believe it is, for the most part