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Maximizing Plant Potential - a superior potting mix
« on: May 08, 2014, 06:07:39 PM »

Hey guys!  I haven’t exactly been chatty here on the forum.. despite logging in almost every day  ::) but I have made some great friends and prospered from some amazing trades.  I’ve really been wanting to contribute but feel a bit of a novice and have been looking for how I can help.  So here is my first offering!

I have been researching and playing around with different soil mediums for a few years now.  I don’t particularly like store bought mixes feeling they are lacking essential components.  But traditionally my mixes have always kind of been on the fly and by feel.  Basically what looked good to me and had the ingredients that I thought were important.  However, there was a very important concept that I was oblivious too and now believe was to the greater detriment of everything I have ever grown, even what I believe I have succesfully grown.  It is called the Perched Water Table (pwt).

This exists naturally (known as ground or surface water) but also exists in containers/pots and I think is important to understand.  The easiest way to understand how it works is to think of soil as a sponge.  Literally.  You can also see it in action very clearly with an actual sponge.  If you take one of those thick sponges that you use to wash your car with, set it on a table, and water it until water spills out, it will still retain much of that water.  If you look more closely, you will notice that a bottom portion of the sponge is visibly holding more water than the majority of the upper portion.  It simply won’t drain completely, leaving the sponge wetter at the bottom than the top.  Although the top is moist, the bottom will be soggy.  The same thing happens with soil in a container.. almost always.

Without getting too technical, the reason for this is due to a mediums ability to wick vs the force of gravity.  At some point, the two forces reach equilibrium and that point is the perched water table.  In typical store bought soils, it can be as much as 3 inches or more.

Why is this important?  Because it dramatically impacts root health.  In fact, there is strong evidence to support that root health in container grown plants is the primary limiting factor for a plant reaching its full potential.  Roots need oxygen to grow.  When a perched water table exists, it is no different than a puddle of water.  So, even if you wait to water until the pwt totally dries out before watering, the roots at that zone will be locked into a cycle of decay and regeneration.  As the roots sit in water, they suffocate and start to die.  As the pwt dries out, the roots start to regenerate.  This is very stressful for the plant and consequently, the plant is using a lot of its resources to accommodate this detrimental everlasting cycle, instead of maximizing growth and health.

Worse yet, this may be the most common reason for the eventual decline/failure of plants maintained in pots by so many people.  I know, even as diligent with watering as I like to think I am, how many plants I have lost to rotten roots. 

So.. there has been a new approach  around for a few years and a huge following that says it has dramatically improved their growing experience.  It is commonly referred to as The Gritty mix (or 1-1-1 mix because of the ratio of ingredients).  There are volumes of information about it on another forum.  I don’t know of the policy on STS about linking to other forums, so I won’t do it.  Plus, I want to include this here locally as a resource for our own amazing forum.  But if you are interested, PM me and I can point you in the right direction.  The truth is that there is too much info for me to totally consolidate and probably much better informed experts on the matter than myself. 

But please, let’s try to address as many details here on this thread so other users on this forum can profit.. without having to do all the research I have done!  I will try to answer as many questions as I can.  If you want more info, I’ll be happy to share.

So before we get into how to make the mix, let me preface with a few points.  First, if you are committed to growing organically, this may not be for you.  It may be.. but it requires soluble nutrients and I don’t know what the availability of soluble organic fertilizers is.  Typically, organic nutrients exist as components of a medium (i.e. compost).  Personally, I tend to be in the camp that a chemical is a chemical, whether produced by nature or by man.  Actually, I don’t think things produced by humans are any more unnatural than a bee producing honey… but that’s a whole other discussion.  From a plants perspective, Nitrogen is Nitrogen.  It doesn’t care how it was made.  It uses it just the same.  Now.. using chemical pesticides is another thing and something I definitely try to avoid.

Second, although there are only three ingredients necessary.. they  can be difficult to source depending on where you are located.  There are alternatives I can suggest or you may have to get creative.  It is also a bit more laborious but typically can be much cheaper than buying ready made mixes.

Thirdly, it may require a change in habit or approach to watering.  The short of it is that you may have to water more frequently than you are accustomed to.. like every two to three days.  Because of the nature of most of us on here, I don’t think that will be a problem.  But if you travel or simply don’t want that much maintenance, it should be considered.  Remember, this is about maximizing a plants potential!

So the point of the Gritty Mix, is to get rid of the perched water table and allow the soil medium to be fully aerated at all times, while maintaining constant water and nutrient availability.  The pwt is eliminated by keeping medium partical size greater than 1/16-1/8”, hence the term gritty.  This reduces the mediums ability to wick against gravity and provides plenty of space for aeration.  It also will not compact over time and easily rinses away from roots when repotting.

The Gritty Mix
So the mix is simple.  It consist of equal parts:
•Turface
•Crushed granite
•Pine bark fines (small sized mulch.. shredded or partially composted, not large nuggets)
•May need to amend with small quantity of dolomitic lime or gypsum if your preferred soluble fertilizer does not contain calcium and/or magnesium.

If anyone really wants to pursue this, I’m sure there will be many questions about these components.  I will wait to address them more fully as they come up but here is a brief explanation of each and where you might source it in the meantime.

Turface
This is a soil amendment used on sports fields to help drainage.  It is calcined (fire expanded) clay.  It has a tremendous amount of surface area via interior porosity.  One pound of turface has a surface area equivalent to 14 acres!  This is what primarily holds water and nutrients.  Can be sourced in the US from John Deere.. called AllSport.

Crushed granite
Mostly for aeration and reduction of wicking ability.  Also holds small amount of water on its surface.  Can be sourced from feed stores as a poultry grit product.  You have to be careful that is “grower” size.. for full size chickens, and not for chicks.

Pine Bark Fines
Mostly used as a filler because it is much cheaper.  Also provides an organic component and offers water and nutrient retention.  Sold as mulch or soil conditioner.  Can also use reptile or orchid bark in a pinch, although may be pricey after sifting.

Making the mix:
So, the laborious part is that you have to sift these components to get the right size.  You need two screens. One to sift out the particles that are too large and one to sift out the particles that are too fine.  I made mine with wooden frames, one with ¼” hardware cloth and the other with insect screening.  The important thing is that you can sift out particles that are less than ~1/8” and greater than ¼”.
The pine bark fines need to be sifted for too big and too fine.  The turface has to be sifted for too fine.  And the granite may not need to be sifted at all.

After sifting, you just mix the three ingredients in equal parts, 1-1-1.

Watering
Now, about watering.  The great thing about this mix is that you can’t really overwater, because there will be no perched water table.  In fact, you don’t want to water in sips and want to always water thoroughly whenever you do.  You want to water slowly and until about 10-15% of the total volume of the water washes out the bottom of the pot.  This has the added benefit of flushing any salts that may have built up in the mix.  Also, because the medium has no nutrients, you will have to add a soluble fertilizer (complete with micronutrients).  I think the easiest approach is to water with fertilizer every time, at one quarter strength (a tsp per gallon for most fertilizers).  Alternatively, you can water with fertilizer at full strength once a week and use plain water in between.

So, that’s about it.. lol.  Sorry, I know that was a long post but it’s a rich topic with a lot of aspects.  I do believe it is sound science and that the benefits are many.  I have actually been using a different mix, from the same creator of this one and based on the same principal, with great success for the last couple of years now.  It is mostly for short season (veggies and such) or for short term plantings.  This gritty mix is ideally suited for cacti and succulents or container plants that won’t be repotted for two or three seasons.  I am currently repotting, and starting some new (difficult to germ seeds)  in this gritty mix for the first time, so I can’t personally vouch for it yet but have a high confidence in its performance.  I will share my results as they become evident.  There is literally a legion of people who swear by this mix.

Despite just beginning to use this mix, I feel I have a thorough understanding of the how, what and why.  So please, ask away and I will clarify what I can.  Better yet, maybe some other members can start their own trials and we can see where it leads.  I really think this will be, maybe, the best medium one could ever want for growing cactus and succulents, and really for any terrestrial plant.  And if anyone is interested in the other mix, let me know and I will share that too.  It’s all I use anymore and is much cheaper and better than store bought.  And it’s less maintenance too.. normal watering but it will have a bit of a pwt, just a more acceptable one.
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Re: Maximizing Plant Potential - a superior potting mix
« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2014, 06:09:07 PM »

Hey Mandrake.. not sure if this is exactly an advanced technique, but wasn't sure where to post it.  Please feel free to move if you think there is a more suitable subforum.
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Re: Maximizing Plant Potential - a superior potting mix
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2014, 02:09:52 AM »

Sounds very interesting. I'll be watching to see if you post results!
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Re: Maximizing Plant Potential - a superior potting mix
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2014, 03:57:35 PM »

Many thanks for the post!

First of all, there's no problem at all in linking to other forum resources. However, typing/copying the information so we have it available without leaving STS is much appreciated.

I've read about this approach and it makes sense in container gardening if you can spare the little extra time. In a way, it's almost like manual hydroponics. In that sense, a few questions:

- How does it manage some of the 'soil-less' gardening potential issues, such as the limitations in development of soil micro-organisms? Has anyone considered replacing pine bark with coconut coir, to take advantage of the mycorrhizal fungi present in commercial coconut fiber?  Or using soluble trichoderma?
- Is there any resource discussing which plant families respond better to this, when compared to standard (compost/peat/perlite based) soil mixes?

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Re: Maximizing Plant Potential - a superior potting mix
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2014, 05:44:12 PM »

You're very welcome Mandrake!  I hope to offer much more  8)

You are exactly right about this being akin to hydroponics.  In fact, the creator of this specific medium, aka tapla, said that on a scale of 1 to 10 with 1 being growing in the ground and 10 being hydroponics, that he would give this approach a 7 or 8.

Regarding micro-organisms.. my understanding is that the only reason micro-organisms are needed is because organic nutrients are typically not available for uptake by plants.  They have to be broken down into elemental forms by micro-organisms before they are available for uptake.  Chemical fertilizers in solution are immediately available for uptake.

Tapla has also addressed the use of coir.  Apparently is has a similar water retention to peat and is frequently used in mixes where bottom watering is administered.  For this reason, I suspect it would support a PWT and would be counter productive for a gritty mix.  I will also quote these characteristics about coir.. that should be considered whenever used in a mix:

"Using coir as the primary component of soils virtually eliminates lime or dolomitic lime as a Ca source because of coir's high pH (6+). Gypsum should be used as a Ca source, which eliminates coir's low S content. All coir products are very high in K, very low in Ca, and have a potentially high Mn content, which can interfere with the uptake of Fe" -tapla

I haven't seen anything specifically pointing to pros/cons for certain plant families.. but I will see if I can find any references and report back.

I just repotted a bunch of seedlings with the gritty mix and even started some seeds using it (which is really weird bc it's so coarse.. just feels wrong to me in a way).  I will report any findings as they become apparent.
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Re: Maximizing Plant Potential - a superior potting mix
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2014, 04:07:11 PM »

Here is my first official update to this experiment.  I tried just a few plants, in one of each.. the gritty mix and my peat based mix.  From these, it would appear that these plants prefer a peat based mix. 

These plants started about the same size, potted up mid-May.  Plants on left are in the gritty mix.  These pictures were taken at the end of july:


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Re: Maximizing Plant Potential - a superior potting mix
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2014, 04:11:28 PM »

Here is a batch of M tenuiflora.. the side by side picture is Peat on the left and Gritty on the right
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Re: Maximizing Plant Potential - a superior potting mix
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2014, 04:18:47 PM »

So, looking at the first set of pics.. one might quickly assume that the gritty mix is inferior to my peat based mix.  BUT, things become more ambiguous with the second set of pics (tenuiflora).

It could be that with a better sampling, the differences between media are harder to distinguish.  Or it could be that the tenuiflora, as a species, is less picky.  I repotted all of the tenuifloras a few weeks ago (will post new pics soon).  At this stage, the root development seemed similar - peat to gritty.  I made a mistake using clear cups (which let light through).  So all of the seedlings had bright green algae on the tips that had grown up against the translucent cup.  This didn't seem to impact the health of the seedlings.

So far, I'm certainly not convinced that this mix is 'superior'  However, I now wonder about the impact on root growth.  The roots seemed similar in both media at this point.  No real differences.  They all looked white and healthy.  The next time I repot, I will take pictures of the roots too.



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Re: Maximizing Plant Potential - a superior potting mix
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2014, 05:13:37 PM »

Adjusting for natural growth speed variations in seed grown plants, there doesn't appear to be much of an advantage in that regards.  Maybe those particular plant species already maximize their potential in standard type soil mixes?  However, as you said in your first post, it could be beneficial in the long term as you've said you've seen lots of container plants die from root rot. 

My own experience has been that some containers are just plain poorly designed in terms of drainage.  My solution is just to drill additional holes near the bottom. 
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« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2014, 06:07:50 PM »

Hi, guys. Stumbled on this thread as I was researching something. I thought I'd mention something about the gritty mix. It's low in organic content, so there is little in the way of inherent nutrition. I grow with a focus on the soil's ability to maintain its structure for the life of the planting, and shoulder the entire nutritiuonal burden, which is monkey easy. If you have poor results with the gritty mix, look closely at your nutritional supplementation. In most cases, you'll find your fertilizer lacks one or more essential nutrients. E.g., if you're using a MG product, it probably lacks Ca, Mg, and several of the minors. Since the organic fraction of the gritty mix is small (by design), and the bark component breaks down slowly, it's easy to see the soil won't 'pick up the slack'. Changing to a complete fertilizer that has ALL the essential elements in a favorable ratio (a ratio at which plants actually USE the elements) usually fixes any 'performance issues'.

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Re: Maximizing Plant Potential - a superior potting mix
« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2016, 02:45:02 AM »

That's funny.. Al aka Tapla, is the guy who came up with this mix.  Guess he's googling himself and finding where his gospel has landed lol.

I love the science behind his mixes.  Especially the understanding of a perched water table.  This was a very important concept for me to learn.

However, I have resurrected this thread, almost 2 years from the date I began it.... to report back.

After two years of playing around with this "gritty" mix, I cannot personally vouch for it.  I would concede user error.  However, I used the same nutrients as recommended by Al elsewhere (Dyna Gro Foliage Pro).  I actually like the nutes and continue to use them. 

The simple fact is that I had better results with a well draining organic soil.  Better yet... if you want to maximize plant potential, you can't beat mother nature.  Of all  those mimosas, one was left in a pot of peat based soil.  It's tap root escaped the pot and I allowed it to remain.  It is now 8 feet tall and towering above all the others.

I am still experimenting with this gritty mix for cacti.. but even then, I'm not enthusiastic.

BTW, I still use a modified version of another mix Al came up with known as a (5:1:1 mix, which I may have spoke of earlier or in another thread) with great success.  It's 5x parts Pine Bark Fines 1x part Peat 1x Perlite. 

The important part is the Pine Bark Fines.  It is basically shredded pine bark nuggets.  Screened down to 1/2" or less in size.  Some walmarts have it with the mulch and it comes in a purple bag.  All I have to say is that it is great.  I highly recommend it.
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