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[mj]

Ben it just occurred to me that I remember asking a friend who used to work on a golf course to help me with a patch of dirt that I could not even get sod to grow on. He told me to make sure that the PH of the soil was right or I would just be wasting my time and money. You know how this goes, this stuff will grow throught the tarmack or concrtet of a landing strip but not next to your patio. Good luck mj.