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Title: Found unattended birdy chick
Post by: BubbleCat on May 23, 2017, 01:35:23 am
So I found this unattended birdy and took it in as I saw no parental birds around, it hid in a corner probably from the cold and the cat fox racoon or fret would probably come after it.

I gave it water, lots of insulating woll socks n such, a layer of disposable paper on top, a bowl of water that it liked to bathe in at first and an infra red lamp that keeps it at about 25 C, it has a place in the shadow to choose too.

I fed it worms and omlette, both were accepted but I know nutrition is critical, so first of all: What species is it, I need an ID please. Obviously the lamp tints the pictures red. (I changed this now, the lamp shines onto the box warming it but it doesnt shine on the bird. How old ? When will it be ready to care for itself ?

Turdus Merula ? By now I am very surw it is Turdus Merula, probably older than 2 weeks. As such it must be fed insects and can slowly start to accept certain fruit too.
Title: Re: Found unattended birdy chick
Post by: fairdinkumseeds on May 23, 2017, 03:33:49 am
We have a heap of wildlife carer organizations here in OZ, and you can buy the food for injured animals at most animal stock feed places.
Kangaroo joey mix, insectivore birds mix, grain mash etc.
If they don't stock it they can order it within a few days. Not cheap though...
Reckon Googling "wildlife carer+your town" would be a good place to start.(or similar phrases)

Normally with birds here they are really close to the nest, and once you chase the other bigger birds away that are bashing them up, the mother comes back and leads them home. Normally watching from close by.

Or they are a bit older and have been injured. Hit a car or window. 1 night in a dark box to rest and reset the brain, then they fly away healthy the next day.
Your ID looks pretty spot on to my quick Googling, bit of a pest over here further down south here in OZ.
Good luck with the little fella.
 :)
Title: Re: Found unattended birdy chick
Post by: BubbleCat on May 23, 2017, 11:25:09 am
Well two issues leading to two objectives:

It cant fly and wont take any food unless fed. So I'll make sure it always has food on offer so it can learn feeding itself and I must give it a lot of space so it can do its running and trying to fly thing. Once it flies and eats its time for it.

Got house crickets, so no more scavenging.
Title: Re: Found unattended birdy chick
Post by: Hummingbird on May 23, 2017, 12:58:01 pm
I had a lot experience caring for juvenile and injured birds as a kid, and in cases like these lets say there is a 50/50 chance the bird will survive. First I would check her from injuries, they often fall from the nest, break or scratch something. Next keep the bird warm all the time, specially at night. Make sure to feed it easily digested food such as ground corn mixed with water, through a syringe. Next and probably the most important thing is to keep them safe from stress and strange things they are not used to. So avoid grooming them often while they dont get used to you, and keep them safe from neighbor cats. They smell birds from miles away. Until they lose all their "baby" feathers and learn to feed/fly, they are very sensitive to every sudde change. And it may take a while depending on the species of the bird. They also need to be fed and given water every few hours since bird metabolism is very fast! It's a wonderful thing you are helping this birdy (so unusual for a cat lol), best of luck!
Title: Re: Found unattended birdy chick
Post by: BubbleCat on May 23, 2017, 02:12:43 pm
Well my plan is simple:

Avoid any unnecessary disturbance, it sure is better of if it doesnt remember the creature bringing it up, let alone gets attached to it.
So as soon as it seems fit it will be given the possibility to leave.
In my opinion flying and sourcing food are the requirements for it to be considered fit to leave.

I've done my reading regarding nutrition, its natural nutrition serves it with sufficient moisture so it doesnt need to be given water and further doing so is to be avoided as it may end up in the lungs and cause an infection.

Feeding will be kept as close to natural as possible, I will weigh it soon and see if it gains.

Edit:
(https://www.nabu.de/imperia/md/nabu/images/arten/tiere/voegel/drosseln/140825-nabu-amsel-mit-raupen-frank-derer2.jpeg)
This is a feeding male. So this is how I try to do feeding, lotsa juicy protein.

Lastly it has no bare skin, the need for warmth should not be too high, the lamp will certainly do.
Title: Re: Found unattended birdy chick
Post by: BubbleCat on May 23, 2017, 05:13:56 pm
Looks good, an adult comes in at about 100 gr. (sauce: inturwebs) and this one comes in at a conservative 70 gr.
Title: Re: Found unattended birdy chick
Post by: ONandONandON on May 23, 2017, 06:10:52 pm
looks like is in good hands, just keep the caterpillars coming..
i wouldn't worry about human interaction, that's all just hype.
Title: Re: Found unattended birdy chick
Post by: LIBERTYNY on May 24, 2017, 06:41:37 am
 In the US typicaly when you find a bird like that,  they fell out of the nest / or the mother pushed them to help them learn to fly.   Either way once they are on the ground the mothers will rarely come back for them.

   make sure to give him room to get out from under the heat lamp so they dont overheat,  Also check their but as young chicks tend to get a build up of droopings on their rear that can constipate them to death / their mother usually takes care of this.   Feed supplys sell a vitiman/electrolite/probiotic mix that will help for about 2$

 one of the best subsitute foods for chicks is scrambled eggs with the shell finely powdered in the mix,   some tiny stones also helps their digestion as they have different stomaches than us.

  I had one chick I managed to raise to adult hood, and he remebered me for years,  he would always land on my head and expect me to feed him   8)
Title: Re: Found unattended birdy chick
Post by: BubbleCat on May 24, 2017, 02:15:05 pm
Sturnus Vulgaris is another possible but less likely ID.
Title: Re: Found unattended birdy chick
Post by: BubbleCat on May 24, 2017, 10:09:18 pm
please explain the drooping, saw some bare skin about there
Title: Re: Found unattended birdy chick
Post by: BubbleCat on May 25, 2017, 03:11:43 pm
Good 10 meters of flight today :)
Title: Re: Found unattended birdy chick
Post by: mr.miyagi on May 25, 2017, 05:26:17 pm
I remember one time, in a house I lived in a long time ago, Somehow a wild bird got in through the attic and made its way into my closet, I think it was either sick or very close to dying as it befriended me and was very tame for a few days, It passed sadly :(
Title: Re: Found unattended birdy chick
Post by: Mangrove on May 26, 2017, 09:56:41 pm
please explain the drooping, saw some bare skin about there

Cancer.
Title: Re: Found unattended birdy chick
Post by: BubbleCat on May 26, 2017, 10:43:25 pm
The good news: No cancer. Saw it pick some stuff from the ground today, also saw it take a sip. The one picture was taken a few days ago when I decided I need an accurate reading, the other picture today. Its gaining.

The feathers need to be more fatty, I hope just like flying drinking and picking that will too start coming soon.
Title: Re: Found unattended birdy chick
Post by: BubbleCat on June 02, 2017, 04:58:01 pm
Exquisite taste in plants. Guardian (and fertilizer) of Salvia.
Title: Re: Found unattended birdy chick
Post by: BubbleCat on June 04, 2017, 02:13:59 pm
The good news: +20 gr. since last time and growing the tail thats been missing earlier.
Title: Re: Found unattended birdy chick
Post by: Hummingbird on June 04, 2017, 07:14:04 pm
Amazing! He looks ready to hit the skies!

They grow so fast! :'(
Title: Re: Found unattended birdy chick
Post by: BubbleCat on June 04, 2017, 07:16:59 pm
Soon, I read on the websites of wildlife protection associations I must build an outdoor cage for him, have him in there for some time so he gets to know the location and then release, so he can always come back in case of trouble, until he finally gets independence.
Title: Re: Found unattended birdy chick
Post by: BubbleCat on June 06, 2017, 07:35:42 pm
So I saw a Malophaga today. Since birdy didnt have any contact with birds ever since he must have them ever since. As far as I know: Needs all needs for feather care covered, sand, water basin and sunlight. Besides that there is house remedies and Pyrethreum plant based insictizide that sells cheap. Other sources recommend Neem as a safer alternative. For a best start into independent life I want him pest free and perhaps even have a doctor aprove of release.

Anyways I want to address this as urgent as possible so input is welcome.
Title: Re: Found unattended birdy chick
Post by: BubbleCat on June 15, 2017, 11:56:42 am
I've just released birdy. Its not that it wasnt used to glying where it wants, just that today I am not going to follow it and bring it back anymore. Lets see how it does. Of course it can always come back to its food and water.

Jack outta the box !
Title: Re: Found unattended birdy chick
Post by: Hummingbird on June 15, 2017, 12:25:18 pm
So amazing the birdie is ok, hope it meets its relatives soon  ;D
It's awesome you did so much for this bird! I'm sure he appreciates in his own ways!

Title: Re: Found unattended birdy chick
Post by: BubbleCat on June 16, 2017, 02:36:54 pm
Saw him again today, took a few pictures of him :)
Title: Again ?!
Post by: BubbleCat on November 03, 2017, 12:05:51 am
So I found a bird. It could be a Passer sp. / Anthus sp. / Prunella sp. I dont know. I found it in the house, probably locked in when venting.
I drew a few conclusions and would like if I am wrong on any:
1st: It's an adult more or less, after all it can fly kinda and at this time of the year in the northern hemisphere nesting season is long gone. This is good, it wont get me ultra attached by some means of baby behavior.
2nd: Its unlikely injured, probably exhausted, confused and hungry.
3rd: It eats kernels and cereal (?) so I gave it a bit of what I found: Few dried fruit like cranberry and such, dry poridge and lentils with some ground haselnut I think. Along with water to get that down.

As FDK mentioned I hope that one night in a box with some food and water in a not too cold room might get it right back to life. I plan to release at dusk when temperatures will rise again, maybe a quick visual inspection before that to make sure its not injured.

Its hard to get a good shot of the little fella, when its standing up it looks slender elegant and streamlined, but it only does so to make a big leap so I couldnt catch that on cam.
Title: Re: Found unattended birdy chick
Post by: BubbleCat on November 03, 2017, 11:01:27 am
Seems he decided hed rather sleep in some potting mix I had around. When I woke him up he freaked but two minutes later he let me pick him up and show him where to get back outside :)
Title: Re: Found unattended birdy chick
Post by: BubbleCat on December 09, 2017, 03:35:36 pm
No other bird, let alone Turdus Merula, gets this close to the house, stays put when people or dogs are near... Everyone is speculating its the one that started this thread. In that case it stuck around, still is comfortable with a human up to a few meters close and stays in winter. So I started feeding.  A healthy looking female.
Title: Re: Found unattended birdy chick
Post by: danzick on December 09, 2017, 06:57:27 pm
My neighbor has fostered a couple baby bluejays. They still come around occasionally to visit, and grab a cat food snack.  Nice job, BC.
Title: Re: Found unattended birdy chick
Post by: BubbleCat on July 22, 2018, 07:56:04 pm
3rd one this year I think, never ending story. Looks like a broken wing to me... but lately I hardly have time for anything. I'me try turn this guy in to the wildlife organisations.
Title: Re: Found unattended birdy chick
Post by: BubbleCat on July 22, 2018, 11:58:43 pm
Did turn him in at a registered wildlife carer before I got attached. Guess he's better off there. At the end it seemed like maybe only a minor injury of a wing and I suspect he could be on his way again tomorrow.
Title: Love chicks
Post by: Inyan on July 23, 2018, 12:57:11 am
I love chicks as well.

Put a little dash of salt and a dash of red pepper on the top. Follow that with a nice cold beer an I'm in heaven.
Title: Re: Found unattended birdy chick
Post by: Plantoyo on January 18, 2020, 04:28:15 am
That looks like it might be a European starling to me. But my bird id skills are rusty. There's a site starling talk that has alot of info on raising them. If you're going to release him into the wild make sure to limit human contact so he doesn't lose his fear of humans. If he's already used to you you might want to consider raising him permanently if you can do so humanely and are up to the commitment. They are very very intelligent birds.
Title: Re: Found unattended birdy chick
Post by: BubbleCat on January 23, 2020, 09:05:45 am
I always release them and yes, I do see how they should not attach themselves and I am a bit guilty for letting it happen :D but then again I usually notice an effect where at a certain age (puberty ?) their behavior radically changes and one will know they want to fly, the sooner the better. It also appears they can tell humans apart and only a few days after release, when you come across them again, they seem a bit less shy than the usual wild bird but wont let you get too close either. I think that should keep them safe.