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Title: Hedge
Post by: sapla on April 16, 2022, 02:27:18 AM

Hi,

I am going to make several lengths of hedge and I would like to choose several species of plants to promote biodiversity.
if possible, I will keep installing some plants that we like and which are part of the collection, it can be convulvacaea, ivy or shrubs.

my hardiness zone is 9b, it's -5 for a few days a year, the terrain is south facing, the area is oceanic and the land is quite humid.

do you have any prosition of plants to replace thuja and other traditional plants used for hedges. the plants must not be poisonous or strongly sting and hardly and evergreen.

Thanks for anyone who has any ideas. bye

Title: Re: Hedge
Post by: Greenmystery on April 16, 2022, 11:39:51 AM

I'd try and mainly select plants that are indigenous to your area/country (they'll need less attention)and ones that flower at different intervals which will help benefitting your local insect pollinators and birds.
Ones that produce something edible to yourself would be a extra bonus.

Title: Re: Hedge
Post by: Mangrove on April 16, 2022, 11:43:06 AM

Catha Edulis, Acacia Frimbriata, Acacia Farnesiana and Barbados Cherry make for fantastic hedgery.

Title: Re: Hedge
Post by: ONandONandON on April 17, 2022, 01:52:57 AM

grapevine, apple, pear, plum, citrus, roses, willow,
check out these wiki for some other plant options:
there https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Espalier
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedgelaying
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hedge
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleaching

Title: Re: Hedge
Post by: sapla on April 20, 2022, 03:10:34 AM

hi,
Thank you for your answers.
I would like to plant species that have a story to tell or entheogen. catha is illegal in my country but the idea of ​​an evergreen hedge acacia seems like a good idea.

I will look for illicium paviflorum. illicium floridanum looks smaller and therefore easier to maintain, the flowers are more beautiful.

Ivy has many assets like hedera helix ”erecta” or ”arborescens”. if anyone has ivy cultivar like erecta or other, i'm very interested.

 thank you very much, don’t hesitate to propose species that could be suitable.
 bye

Title: Re: Hedge
Post by: Croissant on June 28, 2022, 06:46:30 PM

You could try some passiflora

Either incarnata if you want to grow some MAOI, but they'll die back in winter and show again on spring
Or cerulea but that won't have MAOI effect just some relaxing effects

Title: Re: Hedge
Post by: Mangrove on June 28, 2022, 07:10:12 PM

Quote from: sapla on April 20, 2022, 03:10:34 AM

hi,
Thank you for your answers.
I would like to plant species that have a story to tell or entheogen. catha is illegal in my country but the idea of ​​an evergreen hedge acacia seems like a good idea.

I will look for illicium paviflorum. illicium floridanum looks smaller and therefore easier to maintain, the flowers are more beautiful.

Ivy has many assets like hedera helix ”erecta” or ”arborescens”. if anyone has ivy cultivar like erecta or other, i'm very interested.

 thank you very much, don’t hesitate to propose species that could be suitable.
 bye

I can fetch you some A. Farnesiana seeds if you'd like. How cold does it get in winter?

Title: Re: Hedge
Post by: Croissant on June 28, 2022, 08:00:42 PM

Quote from: Mangrove on June 28, 2022, 07:10:12 PM

Quote from: sapla on April 20, 2022, 03:10:34 AM

hi,
Thank you for your answers.
I would like to plant species that have a story to tell or entheogen. catha is illegal in my country but the idea of ​​an evergreen hedge acacia seems like a good idea.

I will look for illicium paviflorum. illicium floridanum looks smaller and therefore easier to maintain, the flowers are more beautiful.

Ivy has many assets like hedera helix ”erecta” or ”arborescens”. if anyone has ivy cultivar like erecta or other, i'm very interested.

 thank you very much, don’t hesitate to propose species that could be suitable.
 bye

I can fetch you some A. Farnesiana seeds if you'd like. How cold does it get in winter?

Knowing where he's from, it gets up to -7°C in winter

-7°C is a harsh winter here

Title: Re: Hedge
Post by: sapla on July 02, 2022, 11:27:45 PM

I am interested in trying to grow mimosa.
my hardiness zone is 8a/8b.

For the moment, I have chosen several ivy cultivars because they allow me to have plant cover all year round and give me leaves to make liquid manure.

I still have a lot of length to do, so don't hesitate to make proposals for species

Title: Re: Hedge
Post by: NWFLArenegade on August 04, 2024, 06:54:03 AM

Have you thought about the tea plant Camellia sinensis or, another caffeine containing plant, yaupon holly (Ilex vomitora)?

Title: Re: Hedge
Post by: MadBotanist on November 03, 2024, 08:22:35 AM

Acacia oxycedrus makes a good hedge.

Title: Re: Hedge
Post by: BubbleCat on November 07, 2024, 12:11:15 PM

IMO, at least in my area, hedges just 'happen' once interference (mowing, grazing...) ceases. In my area I expect Crataegus, Prunus, Sambucus, Quercus, Salix, Carpinus, Cornus, Fagus, Rubus, Rosa ... and so on to start showing up soon concerning the woody or rather woody plants. Results vary and of course depend on where you are. But leaving things and not doing a thing is, probably, leading to the most natural results while being the easiest and most sustainable.
I would like to add that personally I value 'naturality' over 'biodiversity'. Many natural habitats are natural monocultures and thete is nothing wrong with nature and no need for man to make 'improvements' here. Take Fagus forests as example. Those are very common in my area and the adaptions making the genus Fagus rather successful is that a) adults shade the area heavily b) they mulch heavily suffocating and further depriving competing plants of light and c) saplings require much less light than many other trees saplings.
In any case the plants listed above might provide a good solid woody basis for a hedge in your climate if you want to speed things up or force it a certain way.

Title: Re: Hedge
Post by: CactusUnpaidOvertime on June 18, 2025, 02:34:59 AM

hmm; wind breaking plants that is one idea

Wi liv in a hedging labrythian maze

Try (IF USDA? Americana/Americano) - switchcane (Common name; grass, bamboo, American bamboo; presumes there were American Pandas), Several vines (Morning glory) but they do not block the wind nor shut out the light yet depending on the height it might make for a good bit in case you requisite a landmark if one day the scope of your hedge project gets out of control and it evolves taurs (Manotaurs, etcetera))

Try Sugarcane if it survives, bamboo, spruce; anything that works like a wall

There are reed grass really that grow high and can make licorice candy and gum; will your hedge be watery? Swampy? Spiny? Dangerous? Safe? Filled; teaming with diversity?

I recommend a Redwood tree if the Hedge needs to have it

Title: Re: Hedge
Post by: CactusUnpaidOvertime on June 18, 2025, 02:38:41 AM

IS THIS HEDGE IN CALIFORNIA? California is an Archapelago with U.S. Region and Mexico region and close by Mexico and Canada

For diversity you need a boom or something

A black hole is an orb of destruction before that it was a sun and inbetween somewhere it was a dwarf star