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Share The Seeds Site => Welcome and Introduction Area => Topic started by: Passi on September 04, 2013, 12:03:18 PM
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Hello!
I'm Passi.
I have no plants or seeds for trade at the moment but intend to create some passiflora cuttings for next year
if all goes well.
Current plants of interest in my home:
Passiflora Edulis
Passiflora Caerulea
Passiflora "Eynsford Gem" Caerulea x Racemosa (I have cuttings in a glass since mother plant is outside in the
cold not looking so good)
Acacia Simplex
Camellia Sinensis
I have an order of five more Passifloras that will be sent to me next week which are:
P. Jorullensis
P. Actinia
P. Aurantia var Samoensis
P. Biflora
P. Murucuja
See you in the forum!
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Welcome to the forum!
Don't forget to get some Passiflora incarnata ;)
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Welcome to the forum!
Don't forget to get some Passiflora incarnata ;)
an edulis is fine too..
http://www.drugs.com/npp/passion-flower.html (http://www.drugs.com/npp/passion-flower.html)
Quantitative analysis of different plant parts from P. incarnata and P. edulis indicate that P. edulis leaves have the highest alkaloid content, and that fruit rinds contain approximately 0.25% alkaloids. Seeds and root tissue have the lowest alkaloid content. These findings may have economic importance. P. edulis fruit rinds, by-products of passion fruit juice production, may provide an economical source of alkaloids
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Hello passi and thanks for joining :)
A little post or a couple pictures about your work with Passifloras in the Gardening Area of the forum will be more than welcome, since we barely have information about the genus in STS at the moment.
Please refer to the Rules (http://sharetheseeds.me/index.php/rules) and FAQ (http://sharetheseeds.me/forum/index.php?topic=15.0) for any questions, and hope to see you in the forums - then I'm sure you will be promoted to full member soon.
Welcome to STS,
Mandrake
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Welcome to the forum!
Don't forget to get some Passiflora incarnata ;)
Thanks!
Historical reports and personal bioassays from people seems to point to Incarnata not being very special
for it's species at all.
Hopefully we'll get more data on the subject as more people will get their eyes up for
these wonderful plants.
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Well it's a nice looking plant if nothing else.
And welcome to STS! I really don't know much about all of these other passifloras maybe you can help shine some light on them. I always found incarnata interesting, which ones do you consider very special for the passiflora genus?
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Well it's a nice looking plant if nothing else.
And welcome to STS! I really don't know much about all of these other passifloras maybe you can help shine some light on them. I always found incarnata interesting, which ones do you consider very special for the passiflora genus?
Thank you!
I just meant that Incarnata has been considered to be one of few psychoactive species of passiflora but
in reality there seems to be a whole bunch of them if not maybe most of them.
I dont really consider anyone special except maybe passiflora cirrhiflora for it's looks...I want that one.
Right now anything goes as there is very little research done on these plants.
I recommend to google "passifloras of interest" for more information
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Hello passi, welcome to STS. :)
What interests you the most in this Genus?
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Hello passi, welcome to STS. :)
What interests you the most in this Genus?
Thanks!
Except for the obvious beauty I'd say the alkaloids and psychoactive effects. It's somewhat uncharted territory.
And hopefully some of the vines will bear edible fruits one day.
I want to create a hybrid some day to. It would be incredibly fun to mate to different plants, get fruit, grow
seedlings and then hope that one of the plants will flower in about 3 years and when that
first flower open you'll see something no one has ever seen before.
If it's beautiful you name it, clone it and spread it.
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It contains harmala and harmine alkaloids. incarnata and edulis have the highest amounts iirc, the former having the highest out of the two.
I experimented a while back to see if it had any potential as a natural anti-depressant. I don't really have any conclusive data. At best my findings were anecdotal.
If anyone decides to experiment with these plants remember to do your research. Harmala family alkaloids can be dangerous in high amounts.
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Welcome Passi.
Ive always thought the varieties of passion flowers were some of the most beautiful and strange looking plants.
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I believe theres alot more to them than just harmaloids. I remember being told its a mild testosterone boosting plant benzo. Can't seem to find much info to back that up at the moment. I know it makes a relaxing tea.
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Stange indeed billydgator!
There is definitely more to the plants then "just" the harmala alkaloids, there are a lot of "flavinoids" that looks
responsible for some of the effects.
I strongly urge anyone that want to know more about passiflora chemistry to read this thread, it has very
good and compiled information:
https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=26892
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Keep in mind the rules when talking about alkaloids. Harmalas are scheduled in some places (Canada, Australia, France, ect..).
Thanks
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Keep in mind the rules when talking about alkaloids. Harmalas are scheduled in some places (Canada, Australia, France, ect..).
Thanks
Point taken!
Thanks!
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Yep, don't mean to bust balls. Just watching out.
I'd love to try one of the fruits some day. I'm thinking of getting some passiflora myself. Not sure which species I want at the moment.
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I understand New Wisdom's warning, but I want to put things in perspective.
The rules specifically ban discussion about preparation or consumption of scheduled compounds, and this also applies in cases of compounds found naturally in plants that are controlled in some countries but not others, such as harmine or harmaline. It's also against the rules the discussion about extraction of actives from plant matter.
In STS we are aware that this might seem very strict to some users, and that (for instance) banning the talk about extraction of peppermint essential oils from peppermint leaves can appear excessive. However, enforcing a selective set of rules that would allow discussing the use of certain plants, or certain plant compounds, but not others, would inevitably fall into loopholes and contradictions due to the complex legal status of many substances across the world, and would be virtually impossible to implement. So for both practical and legal reasons, we prefer to err in the side of caution.
Since STS is specialized in gardening, botany and sustainability, and in allowing users to trade legal gardening goods, we want to remain on topic and to ask everyone to follow scrupulously the laws in STS, for everyone's safety.
This does not mean we cannot mention in a discussion the compounds present in a plant species. Passion flower, in particular, is widely sold legally and used in many countries (I can go to my local herbal store and buy a kilo, if I want) in spite of the controlled status of some of its purified actives. Bringing up the types of flavonoids/alkaloids/terpenoids or whatever can be found in a plant species, for instance in a Plant Datasheet or when it's relevant for a discussion, is perfectly okay as a matter of botanical and ethnological interest. However, we should avoid centering whole detailed discussions around that matter, since even if the extraction or use of plant actives is not explicitly mentioned, such discussions will easily imply that plants are being traded and grown for consumption mainly, and that's a message we do not endorse, and do not want to deliver in this community.
Thank you,
Mandrake