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Gardening Area => Growing questions and answers => Topic started by: Mr. seeds on April 25, 2016, 10:12:27 PM
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So there's what appears to be mold (a fuzzy coating) on the dirt of a few plants. Is there a way to remove it? I also caught a small mushroom growing in one of the pawpaw tree containers. I'm gonna have to do some depesting too, there appears to be little gnats in the dirt and some centipedes. Anyone recommend a natural pest control?
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I assume these are outdoor plants since you have centipedes in them? Fungal growth and fungus gnats are indicative of poor quality soil and overwatering. How old are your plants? What kind of soil are you using? How often do they get water and what are your current average day /night temps?
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Less water
When you do water add hydrogen peroxide, chamomile tea, 'liquid copper'
Light UV is a great sanitation agent
Bacillus thuringiensis var israelensis (mosquito dunks) works great for fungi knats
peroxide mixing charts --- http://www.using-hydrogen-peroxide.com/gardening-with-hydrogen-peroxide.html
I think the centerpedes are likely eating the knat larva ? ?
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cinnamon has pretty powerful antifungal properties, the one caution I have is that be careful not to coat everything because liberal use of cinnamon has 'choked' plants for me, less is more, I alternate hydrogen peroxide and cinnamon and this kills most soil impurities for me
-Ian
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I've said it before and I'll say it again. Fungi are a natural part of healthy soils. If it's not damaging the plant, leave it alone. It's doing its job, cycling vital nutrients to the soil. The little mushrooms you saw are likely a coprinus species. They are common in nutrient rich soils. Fear not.
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Well woot! i have my answers :) and with what sporehead said does anyone have ideas on fungi friendly ways to kill off the gnats and possibly centipedes (unless they're doing good too). So far i think that the paw paws are my main concern. I'll restrict the use of water.
I've got plenty of cinnamon, hydrogen peroxide, and chamomile but the other stuff i'm unsure of where to find.
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Ohhh! and also the plants are now indoor since we moved into new apartments but i can take them outdoor every now and then. I'll try to figure out what the temps are and update y'all
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Hey Mr. seeds
Mayabe next year we can swap pawpaw seed's my mango pawpaw is flowering this year prolifically :)
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Maybe :) these guys were the ones that (if i remember correctly) cunningplatapus sent me. I don't know what kind of variety they are but i'm hoping to poke holes in a laundry tub and fill it with dirt to give em a bigger container for their roots to grow. They seem to still be alive though it's kinda hard to tell since they're still sticks and haven't developed new leaves yet.
I'd like to try to go hunting for paw paw tree's and start at least 10-20 from seed. probably 10, 20 sounds intimidating! lol
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While it is true that beneficial fungi are an integral part of healthy soil, many commercial potting soils these days are either so sterile and lifeless that they are easily overrun by harmful fungi and bacteria are have already been taken over by the bad guys before you ever open the bag. Try growing something in miracle grow organic potting soil if you don't believe me. That stuff is pure garbage. I suggest starting with good quality soil, ensure proper drainage, and don't overwater. You are probably not going to get good results by throwing any old "dirt" in a tub. Check out your local nursery or feed store to get the good stuff without having to spend a fortune or learn how to make your own compost.
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Would i be able to just straight compost? Also are there ways to encourage beneficial fungi?
I do believe compost is being heavily discounted in this one place that sells some. I think they even give alittle away if they have an excessive amount from what i've heard.
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Are you sure they are not millipedes? Easy way to find out, grab one, if it bites you it's a centipede if not it's a millipede. Centipede bites feel like liquid fire so you will know for sure. Millipedes are very good to have, they eat dead fall and mulch turning it to nutrient filled goodness.
nobody
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I had lost many plants in cheap soil mixes. It gets the above mentioned mold/fungi over time, and root rot is too common. It wasn't obvious to me at first, but good soil is crucial...
I would also mention that using homemade organic fertilizer seems to bring some "life" to the cheap lifeless mixes, but I'll still avoid them in the future, expect maybe for some very resistant plants.
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Is there another way to tell? lol...
Also i'm thinking that i'm going to try to get new dirt soon just to be on the safe side and i'll replant them in much bigger containers and try to add millipedes (any other good helpful insects?) and do what i can to encourage beneficial fungi. Can one buy live milipedes and release them into the dirt?
Also while on the topic of dirt how do i increase the microbe content in my PV's?
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Is there another way to tell? lol...
Also i'm thinking that i'm going to try to get new dirt soon just to be on the safe side and i'll replant them in much bigger containers and try to add millipedes (any other good helpful insects?) and do what i can to encourage beneficial fungi. Can one buy live milipedes and release them into the dirt?
Also while on the topic of dirt how do i increase the microbe content in my PV's?
Bro.. Just don't overthink it. I had the white stuff on surface on soil many times, every time due to bad soil mix/overwatering, it never did any damage to the plants though. But if it smells bad, it is a problem and I would recommend transplanting to a better soil mix in that case.
This is just my theory, keep in mind:
Microbes are everywhere, just don't have enough food to grow in some poor soil mixes, so they might even attack the roots of the plant. How would you make them multiply? By introducing some food for them in form of decayed organic matter (compost) or organic fertilizer.
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I wouldn't worry much unless it's harming the main plants. Also bottom watering could possibly combat this problem. I had the same thing happen to me using diet from my yard in potted plants. Especially water living ones. Should be fine.
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So there's alot of flies and it's contaminated the other plants too. How would i kill the flies but save the milipedes?
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Watering with a diluted hydrogen peroxide solution will combat the mold. Generally pharmacys sell like a 3% solution, which I mix half and half with water.
Spraying with a apple cider vinegar spray (maybe like a tablespoon in a 4 ounce spray bottle, give or take) will help with gnats.
No idea how to keep one bug but not the other. :P
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Fly paper suspended in the air, catches flies without trapping millipedes.