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Title: planting a bare root cactus question
Post by: bezevo on February 10, 2016, 03:40:13 AM
hi I am a new member I bought a couple little  small seedling cactus on ebay Short Spine Peruvianus x Psycho0. they arrived bare root .

I took some Shultz cactus soil mix 50 /50 with pearlite  I threw in some Azmonite  and humeric acid for minerals ,

 I planted them each in a small dollar store SIPs pot .

?? NOW Should I water sparingly right away . or just let them be for awhile before I water like I do with a cactus cutting?
Title: Re: planting a bare root cactus question
Post by: MadPlanter on February 10, 2016, 12:56:53 PM
I'd figure since they have roots the can regulate unlike an unrooted cactus. I'd water them in lightly once and allow them to establish while the soil is drying up. Then commence watering as normal for cactus.

Peace
Title: Re: planting a bare root cactus question
Post by: bezevo on February 10, 2016, 05:57:37 PM
Thank you for the advice MadPlanter

 That was my best guess on whether to water the newly planted bare rooted cactus seedlings .
 I will water them sparingly .

I also have three pups I just bought on ebay coming soon .
A treacherous Peruvianus "SEMAN KORN" vender says grown from seeds from Australia
and two pups of Peruvianus Monstrosus . 

I have rooted cuttings before I am assuming . I treat pups the same ?
Title: Re: planting a bare root cactus question
Post by: MadPlanter on February 10, 2016, 10:29:00 PM
If they don't have roots I'd plant them dry an inch or two deep. Wait until your sure they have roots then water.
Title: Re: planting a bare root cactus question
Post by: Bach on February 11, 2016, 12:54:12 AM
OK I'm gonna go exactly opposite what MadPlanter just told you.

Those seedlings I would plant and then leave them dry for a week or three to allow the roots to heal. Watering newly repotted cactus of any size is an invitation for infection. Think about it, those thin little roots are subject to abrasion when repotting and those tiny little injuries can act as an entry point for potentially harmful microorganisms. Adding water at that point would just open the flood gates, as it were.  Give them a chance to heal up and then water as much as they will take.

Believe it or not watering cuttings can actually stimulate them to root. The key is not to allow the soil to remain damp for a long time. Like maybe four or five days. And they have to be well calloused first. Three or four cycles of wet/dry is sometimes all it takes to initiate roots. Heat also stimulates root formation so some bottom heat can be used, or just wait for summer.  Here in Florida trichs will root like mad in the summer, but moisture control is tricky unless you have a greenhouse, which I don't.  :-\

As with anything related to horticulture, your mileage may vary, but this is what works for me.
Title: Re: planting a bare root cactus question
Post by: LIBERTYNY on February 11, 2016, 12:54:53 AM
 Im not that familiar with cacti but I think pictures may help your case, as they should be able to tell how dehydrated they are or not

 Personally I would air on the side of caution and keep them on the dry side and watch for dehydration signs / But im no cacti expert
Title: Re: planting a bare root cactus question
Post by: bezevo on February 11, 2016, 03:45:06 AM
ok  here is what I did today . before I read all posts ha one seedling was about 3" the other about 2" they had little bundles of dry roots about 3/4" long .

 I potted them up  a cpl days ago the soil mix was almost dry  and  today  after work I watered very sparingly from below so the roots stayed mostly dry .. I was thinking the cactus would "reach for it"  if that makes sense.???

the three pups I ordered will be delivered tomorrow they will have no roots I expect ?

I will just pot up and wait for warmer weather to water ?

Anyone use a heat pad ? hummm....?

Title: Re: planting a bare root cactus question
Post by: Frog Pajamas on February 11, 2016, 02:35:55 PM
Sounds like you're on the right track. If they have roots, it's fine to water them. If they are unrooted, generally wait until they start to root to water, and then water sparingly slowly working up to a normal watering schedule.
Title: Re: planting a bare root cactus question
Post by: bezevo on February 12, 2016, 02:25:17 AM
thank you Frog Pajamas

LOOKS GOOD SO FAR

Post office is having trouble with delivering my pups ha ha

I hope they don't freeze in a truck
Title: Re: planting a bare root cactus question
Post by: LIBERTYNY on February 12, 2016, 05:04:36 AM
 A lot of people report great success rates when shipping sensitive material.  Which baffles my mind as cargo holds on planes are rarely pressurized  ? ?
Title: Re: planting a bare root cactus question
Post by: bezevo on February 12, 2016, 05:18:03 AM
well its been down to 20f  this week

 not bad as it can be as cold as -20f in Feb
Title: Re: planting a bare root cactus question
Post by: misplant on February 12, 2016, 06:35:08 AM
a real problem with bare-rooting a cactus plant is the likelihood of the roots drying out, as in dieing...

if you receive something bare root, trim the roots back with a scissors; the mere act of trimming them will be to stimulate new root growth if the roots are alive.  generally the bare roots will dry & die from the tips back in, so trimming them back is always highly recommended.

regarding when to water, consider this fact:  a cactus plant or calloused cutting will grow new roots in bone dry potting soil, searching for water.  another fact, cactus plants generally stop growing in the winter, roots included, or they grow much more slowly.  warm soil temps promote root growth, cold soil temps inhibit root growth.  cold soils and water will lead to more problems than you will want to deal with.

when i root out bare root cuts, most likely they go into 1 gallon pots & they dont get watered for 3 months, or longer.  remember, they will grow roots in bone dry soil, so why chance the risk of rotting?
Title: Re: planting a bare root cactus question
Post by: bezevo on February 12, 2016, 10:05:09 PM
THANK YOU  for the Advise MSPLANT .

I have another small seedling on its way Trichocereus Huanucoensis x ( SS02 x SS01 )

 I will just pot it up dry and wait a cpl months to water,  I used Shultz cactus soil mix 50 /50 with pearlite  I threw in some Azmonite  and humeric acid for minerals .

I  received three nice 11" pups today I just bought on ebay  .
A treacherous Peruvianus "SEMAN KORN"
 vender says grown from seeds from Australia
and two pups of Peruvianus Monstrosus GRANDE .

I will treat them like I have cuttings and just plant in dry soil and wait a few months before I water . 

I Was really surprised how nice and heavy/thick the pups  were .

how do I find were I can review a vendor ?
Title: Re: planting a bare root cactus question
Post by: Ian Morris on February 13, 2016, 05:05:00 AM
Give feedback here

http://sharetheseeds.me/forum/index.php?board=12.0

Title: Re: planting a bare root cactus question
Post by: bezevo on February 14, 2016, 02:37:26 AM
THANKS Morris I will give some feedback there .

 I just got my three large pups I bought on ebay potted up today.

Then OCD  made me LOSE MY MIND  and I bought 4 more pups and cuts .

Title: Re: planting a bare root cactus question
Post by: bezevo on February 15, 2016, 08:03:57 PM
OK UPDATE :

so far the two little bare root  Short Spine Peruvianus X Physco0 seedlings I bought on ebay . are doing fine . There neer a sunny window in a warm room . 

I used some Shultz cactus soil mix 50 /50 with pearlite  I threw in some Azmonite  for minerals ,

 I planted them each in a small dollar store SIPs pot .

I waterd sparingly with a spash of root stimulator in the water .

I will post later about the root stimulator . its a product I use with my new bare root fruit trees and figs .

thought I would try on cactus .

OK Sending GOOD KARMA to all tthat offerd advice .
Title: Re: planting a bare root cactus question
Post by: bezevo on February 16, 2016, 11:52:10 PM
up  date my 4 cuttings n pup I bought on ebay this weekend shipped today ,

 I also got a new interesting hybrid seedling with roots and soil .delivered today .

Trichocereus Huanucoensis x ( SS02 x SS01 ) 

 I used some Shultz cactus soil mix 50 /50 with pearlite , I threw in some Azmonite and humeric  acid for minerals ,

 I planted them each in a small dollar store SIPs pot .

I watered sparingly with a splash of root stimulator in the water .

I will post later about the root stimulator . its a product I use with my new bare root fruit trees and figs .

thought I would try on cactus .
Title: Re: planting a bare root cactus question
Post by: happyconcacti on February 17, 2016, 06:52:13 AM
bezevo,

check out www.misplant.net

That's where the seed for your seedling came from. Misplant is a member here ;)

Hcc
Title: Re: planting a bare root cactus question
Post by: bezevo on February 17, 2016, 05:09:14 PM
cool thanks for the info happyconcacti  sending you good karma
 I will have to get a note book and record all I know about each  cactus .

the seedling looks good after its journey and repotting ........so far .