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Title: Need ID on trichocereus species
Post by: Cactizen on May 11, 2015, 11:53:04 PM
today I went to Home Depot and found amongst their cacti three trichocereus cacti. They are all the same type of trichocereus cacti, but the label does not give any other info. I was hoping someone here may know what it is.

Title: Re: Need ID on trichocereus species
Post by: happyconcacti on May 12, 2015, 12:02:37 AM
I'm thinking T. grandiflorus for a couple reasons:

1) they're very common as hardware-store cacti
2) the spines look fairly similar

But it'd be good to hear from others because I'm not quite sure.

Hcc
Title: Re: Need ID on trichocereus species
Post by: Cactizen on May 12, 2015, 12:35:31 AM
I was thinking that, tershekii, or Trichocereus purpureopilosus
Title: Re: Need ID on trichocereus species
Post by: Cactizen on May 14, 2015, 12:56:27 AM
No one else has any ideas?
Title: Re: Need ID on trichocereus species
Post by: New Wisdom on May 14, 2015, 01:51:46 AM
I would say T. purpureopilosus or a T. grandiflorus hybrid. Most likely a T. grandiflorus hybrid.  The spines and shape are just a bit off for purpureopilosus, but both of those species are very comonly found at hardware stores.  More so grandiflorus hybrids.

New Wisdom
Title: Re: Need ID on trichocereus species
Post by: Cactizen on May 14, 2015, 02:25:37 AM
Ok. I wasn't too interested in those trichocereus cacti, but all the label said was trichocereus sp. So I jumped on them hoping they were some of interest. They were only like 4 bucks each so it was a decent deal and now I have some more friends for inside to make my house greener  ;D
Title: Re: Need ID on trichocereus species
Post by: EIRN on November 24, 2015, 11:43:33 PM


Pic one, bigger plastic pot, upper left...What can be?

Pic 2 and 3 - macrogonus?
Title: Re: Need ID on trichocereus species
Post by: Chicsa on November 24, 2015, 11:46:02 PM
first one kinda looks like t. poco
Title: Re: Need ID on trichocereus species
Post by: Psylocke on November 25, 2015, 01:23:01 AM
First one looks like terscheckii to me. 2 and 3 I would call peruvianus or Cuzcoensis.
Title: Re: Need ID on trichocereus species
Post by: Urban Elements on November 25, 2015, 01:36:24 AM
Question: How much organic material is in them pots?
Title: Re: Need ID on trichocereus species
Post by: husk on November 25, 2015, 05:51:03 PM
Ok. I wasn't too interested in those trichocereus cacti, but all the label said was trichocereus sp. So I jumped on them hoping they were some of interest. They were only like 4 bucks each so it was a decent deal and now I have some more friends for inside to make my house greener  ;D

I did the same a while ago, I have a grandi that looks the same as the other one that was simply sold as either a grandi hybrid or just a tricho hybrid.

Title: Re: Need ID on trichocereus species
Post by: kykeion on November 25, 2015, 07:38:33 PM
OP those are definitely T. grandiflorus, and most likely hybrids.  Good news is they tend to flower more easily and at a much smaller size than other trichs, though those are probably still too small to flower. Also they should have colored flowers. 
Title: Re: Need ID on trichocereus species
Post by: EIRN on November 25, 2015, 09:51:37 PM
First one looks like terscheckii to me. 2 and 3 I would call peruvianus or Cuzcoensis.

In clay pot is a terscheckii, my doubt is about the medium size plastic pot. Thanks


Question: How much organic material is in them pots?

They are different mixes...some are 1oo% organic material.

Title: Re: Need ID on trichocereus species
Post by: misplant on December 15, 2015, 07:08:15 PM
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my doubt is about the medium size plastic pot.

blue plastic pot trich looks peruvianus to me

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some are 1oo% organic material

100% organic is marginally ok for trichs, conditional you let the mix dry out completely between waterings.
Title: Re: Need ID on trichocereus species
Post by: LIBERTYNY on January 21, 2016, 05:34:39 AM
  Rather than start another thread,

Does anyone have a idea what this may be,  It was started as seed labeled Trichocereus peruvianus bought from a e-bay vendor.

 Think it will work as graphting stock for true Trichocereus's ?  It needs to be cut and rerooted anyway as the base is so thin.


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Title: Re: Need ID on trichocereus species
Post by: nobody on January 21, 2016, 11:47:27 AM
Looks to be Cereus peruvianus or Cereus macrogonus. They make great grafting stock.

nobody
Title: Re: Need ID on trichocereus species
Post by: happyconcacti on January 21, 2016, 05:53:50 PM
Does anyone have a idea what this may be,  It was started as seed labeled Trichocereus peruvianus bought from a e-bay vendor.

Gotta watch it with Ebay, there are some not-so-honest-or-possibly-uninformed-folks on there.

If you're going to buy something in the future, feel free to send a link to me and I'll be happy to check it out for you.

Then the question becomes, "will Hcc outbid me?". I can neither confirm nor deny the existence or non existence of such a possible occurrence.  :o 8) ;)

Hcc
Title: Re: Need ID on trichocereus species
Post by: LIBERTYNY on January 21, 2016, 09:15:18 PM
 Yes, I have learned my lesson with ebay (more than once)

 I just bought 2 crosses from misplant,   Bridgesii Helen x Psycho0,   and,  SS02xSS01 x LumberJack

 I also have some Trich seed from Horizon herb now Strictly medicnal seed San Pedro and Peruvianus  ,I have had great luck with their shop in the past   

https://www.strictlymedicinalseeds.com/product.asp?specific=2495

 Next spring/summer I will also likey try to obtain some clone material (the wait is killing me)
Title: Re: Need ID on trichocereus species
Post by: kykeion on January 22, 2016, 12:41:23 AM
Wow, that must have just happened in the past day or two.  I was just checking them out either last week or earlier this week and they were still Horizon.
Title: Re: Need ID on trichocereus species
Post by: husk on January 22, 2016, 11:46:07 AM
Yes, I have learned my lesson with ebay (more than once)

 I just bought 2 crosses from misplant,   Bridgesii Helen x Psycho0,   and,  SS02xSS01 x LumberJack


Buy as many as you can, I see crossbreeding as a very interesting future for the cacti.
Title: Re: Need ID on trichocereus species
Post by: happyconcacti on January 22, 2016, 05:26:48 PM
I also have some Trich seed from Horizon herb now Strictly medicnal seed San Pedro and Peruvianus  ,I have had great luck with their shop in the past

I'd also recommend staying away from typical entheo vendor's Trichocereus seed. They normally have no idea what their seed will produce. You're rolling the dice big time for a 3-4 year wait to see what they look like. WSS seed is pretty much all from Sacred Succulents so they're good to go but you might as well order directly from SS.

You don't really know what you'll get even if you know both parents, but you're hedging your bets.

Hcc
Title: Re: Need ID on trichocereus species
Post by: happyconcacti on January 22, 2016, 05:32:17 PM
I also have some Trich seed from Horizon herb now Strictly medicnal seed San Pedro and Peruvianus  ,I have had great luck with their shop in the past   

https://www.strictlymedicinalseeds.com/product.asp?specific=2495

So I looked into their San Pedro seeds and a couple things:

1)
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most of the San Pedros found growing in the US are from sterile clones.
I call sales-bullshit. Seriously stinky, crap loaded bullshit. PC pachanoi flowers profusely. EDIT: It's possible they mean "self-sterile" clones which means that PC cannot pollinate itself, which is true. But leaving it as "sterile" would mean they cannot produce at all, which is definitely not true. Misplant has PC x psycho0 and PC x scopulicola crosses coming out soon, both of which I'll be growing. PC does have a lot of good qualities including: disease resistance, cold tolerance, profuse flowering, fast growing, great grafting stock, and more. Imagine getting the genetics of that mixed in with other desirable qualities! :)

2) the pod in the picture is FAR from being ripe, which leads me to believe they don't wait for the pods to burst, picking the fruits early drastically affects germination rates

3) the plant in their pictures looks like the typical PC pachanoi found in hardware stores across the US. Furthermore, the hairs on the flower are whitish gray, not black, which also indicates PC.

I don't mean to rag on this vendor, I'm sure they have a lot of good stuff. But when it comes to these vendors and Trichocereus, they usually have no idea.

If you want a bit of PC open pollinated seed to play with LibertyNY, feel free to send me a PM. I have a couple hundred I could spare. (Offer only for libertyNY)

Hcc
Title: Re: Need ID on trichocereus species
Post by: LIBERTYNY on January 23, 2016, 01:24:33 AM
 I have no idea as well . . .

" PC does have a lot of good qualities including: disease resistance, cold tolerance, profuse flowering, fast growing, great grafting stock"   ---   First I have heard of this.

 Have any good links for me ?  Specifically about the various named varitys.

 What exactly is 'typical PC pachanoi' ?   edit -- I figured it out PC is not what im looking for