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Title: Pereskiopsis infection?
Post by: happyconcacti on February 21, 2015, 05:30:04 PM
Hi All,


After cutting down my pereskiopsis forest, I found these small white, fuzzy things on the stems. They have a brown dot in the center.

I'm pretty sure they're not mealy bugs, I've seen those before. They almost seem like pods of some sort. I cut a few open and there's a little yellow thing inside, but it doesn't look like an insect, eggs maybe?

Unfortunately, I don't have a microscope.

Any thoughts as to what they are?

Hoping for the best but expecting the worst.

Thanks,
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Title: Re: Pereskiopsis infection?
Post by: happyconcacti on February 21, 2015, 06:25:49 PM
I'm starting to think its a fungal infection....not sure though.
Title: Re: Pereskiopsis infection?
Post by: happyconcacti on February 21, 2015, 06:56:44 PM
Pretty sure now that it's scale.
Title: Re: Pereskiopsis infection?
Post by: TBM on February 21, 2015, 08:39:44 PM
What sort of conditions have those pere been in for those symptoms to become present? I'd agree it looks fungal of some kind... unsure how you'd go about treating that other than maybe removing the affected areas? Maybe try neem oil?
Title: Re: Pereskiopsis infection?
Post by: happyconcacti on February 21, 2015, 08:52:47 PM
Well, they've been in a grow closet for a bit. I need to install fans to up the ventilation. Was probably getting pretty humid.

After googling images for a bit, I'm fairly certain it's scale.

From what I've read, treating scale is primarily done by mechanical means followed by a systemic pesticide. After removing the worst of the infected stalks, I went ahead and sprayed them down with:

1L warm H20
+ 1.5 tsp 70% neem oil
+ 0.5 tsp dish soap as an emulsifier for the neem oil

After spraying them down a couple times, I dumped the rest of the Liter of mixture through the soil to hopefully evoke the systemic properties of neem oil. I also turned their lights off so hopefully the neem oil doesn't burn them.

I'm going to keep spraying/watering them with neem at the said concentration.

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Title: Re: Pereskiopsis infection?
Post by: sporehead on February 22, 2015, 03:53:33 AM
We already have some scale on our lemon tree. A few other localized pests as well such as mites and weird soul critters. I'm gonna get some diatomaceas earth for these buggers.
Title: Re: Pereskiopsis infection?
Post by: sporehead on February 23, 2015, 02:23:03 AM
Ya I'm seeing them on the cuttings too. Definitely scale.
Title: Re: Pereskiopsis infection?
Post by: New Wisdom on February 23, 2015, 03:27:59 AM
Diatomaceous earth doesn't work too well with scale since they have the wax coating over their backs.  I guess during their "crawler" phase it could kill them though. I had a major scale problem a while back in my grafting room. I used some systemic insecticide to kill them off and it worked very well, but it took a long time to start working.

New Wisdom
Title: Re: Pereskiopsis infection?
Post by: happyconcacti on February 23, 2015, 05:03:32 AM
Which systemic did you use New Wisdom? Any recommendations? I'd like to start using a systemic for preventative measures.

The foliar neem oil (as described above) and mechanical removal seems to be working so far. I'll probably do another application mid-week.

Sporehead & marshmellow, do you have neem oil? If not, PM me.


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Title: Re: Pereskiopsis infection?
Post by: New Wisdom on February 23, 2015, 07:16:15 AM
I give all my plants imidacloprid now and I haven't had a major infection since. 
Title: Re: Pereskiopsis infection?
Post by: TBM on February 23, 2015, 07:26:45 PM
Imidacloprid is a neonicotinoid which has been demonstrated to have an interaction with honeybees in which the toxin is shown to be weakening them making them more susceptible to the microsporidia Nosema, thus imidacloprid could potentially be partially to blame to colony collapse disorder. I would advice you find another method of infection control, even if it works well. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2847190/ (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2847190/)
Title: Re: Pereskiopsis infection?
Post by: New Wisdom on February 24, 2015, 05:05:15 AM
That's good to know.  It's actually only my indoor plants that get it in my grafting room. They are the only plants that ever get bad infections.  I'll be sure not to put any of those plants outdoors for a while though. 
Title: Re: Pereskiopsis infection?
Post by: TBM on February 24, 2015, 05:37:04 AM
It might be because they are isolated inside that they get infections more easily... is where you live an older building/house? Perhaps it's something in the walls/air??? Pure speculation...
Title: Re: Pereskiopsis infection?
Post by: New Wisdom on February 24, 2015, 06:33:15 AM
It's just that in greenhouses and indoor grow ops bug infestations can take hold easier because of the easier conditions and less predators.  It's a pretty well known phenomenon that happens with indoor grows. 
Title: Re: Pereskiopsis infection?
Post by: TBM on February 24, 2015, 07:06:28 AM
I guess with my experience being not as much as yours I've just been lucky enough to not have that happen to my indoor garden to find that out the hard way.... yet... don't want to be jinxing myself now...
Title: Re: Pereskiopsis infection?
Post by: happyconcacti on March 06, 2015, 05:12:20 PM
1L warm H20
+ 1.5 tsp 70% neem oil
+ 0.5 tsp dish soap as an emulsifier for the neem oil

After spraying them down a couple times, I dumped the rest of the Liter of mixture through the soil to hopefully evoke the systemic properties of neem oil. I also turned their lights off so hopefully the neem oil doesn't burn them.

I did a follow up spray n' soak today. I found a few scale that I missed from the first. They seemed to be dead inside the little cocoon things.

So far, I'd say this has been a successful battle.

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Title: Re: Pereskiopsis infection?
Post by: New Wisdom on March 07, 2015, 06:03:12 AM
Thanks for sharing this and congrats.  It will help out a lot in the future if I get scale again. 

One thing that really helped me with infestations was putting an osculating fan in my grow room that goes over all my plants.  I have to water a bit more, but it really helps prevent infestations from taking hold.  Not sure it would help much with scale, but flying insects like fungus gnats have a very hard time landing where they want to with the air flow and it seems to lower their reproduction rate.

New Wisdom
Title: Re: Pereskiopsis infection?
Post by: happyconcacti on March 07, 2015, 09:13:54 PM
Word, Good call NW,

I've gotta get some fans going on the indoor cacti.

Much Love,
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