Share The Seeds
Gardening Area => Seeds and Germination => Topic started by: Roze on March 18, 2014, 10:36:15 AM
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I start the germination of 5 seeds of P. Viridis, in 15 Jan. (According to the moon guide it was a great day to germinate seeds)
Soaked them in a 1000/ppm solution of GA3 for 12 h.
I dont use any artificial lights, only a small pre- heated incubator/ dome, near a window with 10h of direct sun light. The temperature was constant between 18 and 25ºc and the humidity very high.
After 2 months, 2 seeds come to life!
I didint take any extra care with them , actualy I almost forgot about it..
So my friends, this prove that is possible to grow this magical specie from seed! ;)
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Awesome work Roze! That's very exciting ;) Thank you for describing your process. I'm really looking forward to giving this a go. Well done!
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Congrats. Keep us posted with pictures of the little ones.
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40% germination rate with a 12 hr soak of 1000 PPM GA3? That's quite impressive! I am planning on sowing my P. viridis seeds after a GA3 soak soon, but I hadn't set my mind to what PPM to use... perhaps I'll use a different PPM than you so STS can have more data for P. viridis germination rates...
What type of soil did you sow your seeds into? Also, how deep did you sow them?
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Great job!!! Thanks for sharing!
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That's really awesome, thank you for sharing!
I've tried twice without success, and that brings a question - were those fresh seeds? if not, how old were they, and how were they preserved?
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Thank you guys! ;)
Its a pleasure to share some of my achievements with you, I also have learn a lot from this great community so its my time to contribute!
so... I used a 60/40 humus and perlite soil, and sow them apx 0.5cm deep, the seeds had some months old but they were moist all the time ( I keep them inside the fridge on a vacum container, wrapped in wet paper).
now, after 2 weeks without any grow I decided to take the seed out of the sprout , it was still very hard so I give a hand to my little plant and inside it was already 1 par of atrophied small yellowish leaves.. maybe one more week without help and they die..
Maybe I miss one important step... perhaps scratching the surface of the seed will increase the germination?
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Here they are with 2 months old:
They germinated both at the same time, the size difference between them is because I take the seed shell out on the biggest one and in the other I let nature take its course... it results in a considerable difference!
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Any suggestions?
I have 2/5 germ as well... Almost!!
I started with 5 seeds in jan as well; soaked 12hr in ~1% h2o2 solution, then 3 days water (changing 2x a day), then 15min 3% h2o2 solution. Planted in cococoir starter pots filled with 50:40:10 peat-based seed start mix:cactus blend:perlite with a tiny layer of vermiculite on top; placed inside clear, sealing "to go" tray from a restaurant with a bed of hydrated perlite on the bottom, tried to keep everything pretty clean; sealed (FAE every month or so) and placed in indirect light. I almost forgot and checked them 5 months later, and 2 had sprouted, full moon, may 14. Moved to full light (cfl), cracked the seal and give daily FAE, and now not much has happened in the last month...
The pics aren't great, but there's a tiny bit of healthy green stem pushing out of the seed, but no cots yet, they seem stuck...
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Those seedlings are well known for their slow development.. be patience! ;)
I only saw some upgrowth when I remove the seed shell out.. but be careful if you do that , despite being a hard shell the seedlings are very delicate..
wish you luck!
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You can try to help the seedling out by dripping water onto the shell with a dropper bottle to help soften it so the seedling can push the shell off more easily without needing to pry the shell off the seedling and risk damage.
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Hi Roze!
Just curious how the babies have done. Still alive and growing? :)
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Im having great success with mine, when should I move them from the coco to regular soil mixture?
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Awesome!
You should post some pics, Chickasaw Man. I was looking for pv from seed info yesterday, and while we have excellent information from Bach, it didn't look like we have grow logs with pics on the site.
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No problem.... I'll have to admit its really easy living in this climate to do this (I think we might actually be turning in to 10a O.O)
First I recieved the bag and forgot about it... I noticed that they were already germining in the bag, so I started putting them in Coco...
I have these outside in a shaded area pretty much under a palm tree and a rubber tree
These are just the ones that have broke surface with either the seed coat or broken the seed coat.
Temps are between 70-90*F with 55-99% humidity daily
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Over the last two or three years I've had seedlings pop in the yard just from seeds the mother plants dropped. One day Pv is going to lose the reputation as being difficut to germinate. Fresh seed and humidity are the keys. It' not difficult, just time-consuming.
Also...several years ago I ordered PV seed from a commercial vendor. They came dried, but still in the berries. Much to my surprise they turned out to be viable! Something about the berry flesh seems to help them retain viabliity.
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The easiest way i have found to germinate them is by putting them in a bag with peat moss and forget about them for a couple months. When the tap roots have grown to a good size I plant them in a very well draining soil and cover, after the second or third set of leaves I start to acclimate them to normal humidity. I have had probems with seedlings "damping off" if potted in a heavy soil, leaf cuttings do not seem to have this problem. Seedlings tend to acclimate faster than leaf cuttings as well.
Pic of a couple of this years seedlings, they were from dried seeds without the berry.
nobody
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Growing P.V. from seed is a patience challenge!
Mine 2 babies are in great shape, growing slow is truth, but very healthy.
For some reason one had developed faster than the other, this intrigues me because both are growing in the same conditions, same soil and temperature. The only difference is that I removed the seed shell from one of them and that is twice the size of the other.. could be that the reason?
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Nice work there Roze!
Just a word of encouragement for those who think chacruna takes too long to grow... Hang in there, after eight years or so they really take off!
;D ;D ;D
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Hey I have a new Viridis study going on now too,
these are some seedlings growing in my aeroponic cloner, they
are being given light using LED's. The thing is that I am breaking them up
into 2 groups half receiving blue spectrum only and the other half
is getting blue and red spectrum. Blue is used for vegetation and the red
is used for the flowering stage. I already noticed that they are outgrowing
my soil grown viridis by double, which I started from seed at the exact same time.