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[GrowerAndaShower]

Hey all, Frog Pajamas was kind enough to send me two Salvia Divinorum cuttings. One got stem rot while rooting, the other rooted successfully. However, the rooted one started turning brown at the tips of the leaves, which spread all the way down the stem.
So I've now got a black stump(still firm though) of salvia with roots, any chance it'll come back? I don't see any nodes anymore... No idea what happened. Thought it was low humidity, but a humidity tent seemed to exasperate the problem. Soil is well draining, and I don't think it was root rot because it went down not up...

[cactusmuncher]

Hey yo, post a pic. That all sounds quite strange.

[The Seedist]

Nothing's strange, it is so when plant will not grow anymore because it has chosen death, some kind of self-destruction, stay strong GAS.

[novoriany]

i had the same kind of problems with two cutting from amsterdam, coming from azarius. Since i buy it they don't sell anymore cuttings of salvia divinorum... and i lost the two strain, blosser and hofman. As a cutting is just the replic of the previous plant, and as salvia is suppose to exist in only two specimens, i guess a disease have one day infect them and that this disease (supposed to be a cryptogamic shit) have became too much strong....

 i don't know how the imunitary system of a plant evolve after 50 years of cuttings. But one thing is sure, if the sexual reproduction of salvia divinorum failed for ever, it's sure that we gonna lost this plant.

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[Manigordo]

Got pretty much the same thing with a cutting. It rooted nicely in a glass of water, but after transplantation the leaves got brown and fell off. Then the stem died from the top down.
The other cutting I rooted at the same time is doing fine, already having several new leaves.
Don't think there is much you can do. It's a gamble and even though these guys put on roots easily, not all of them will survive afterwards. 

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[JMZ]

I've had salvia come back months after I thought it was dead. Wouldn't hurt to keep it around to see if it sprouts new growth later on.

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[GrowerAndaShower]

There's not much of a picture, but I'll try to get one later. I'll just leave it as is, maybe I'll luck out. It does look like it just gave up on life. Was growing new shoots, had put on a few leaves, then all of a sudden everything went brown from the leaf tips down in about 2-3 days. It doesn't have a great root system, but hopefully it's enough to sustain it and I'll get her to pop back up. I'm pretty sad, sally was one of the plants I wanted most. I'll hope for the best, and try to improve my environment for next time i get some cuttings.

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[The Seedist]

It's all normal GAS. I let it die time to time and leave it to die peacefully. Am only take all branches off main stalk and place them into the water to make them rooted while their mother S. is dying and then I proceed to grow them near died motherplant. Okay guys will show you the process next few days if no one wanted to show their dying plants. There is nothing to hesitate about. You need learn to watch your lovely plant's death as it is, face to face, and take it as it comes.

[GrowerAndaShower]

I know, plants die. I've had good luck with most things so far,and it's only my first year with a garden, so a loss here and there is to be expected. I had high hopes for these cuttings however, and am dissapointed they didn't make it. Salvia Divinorum is one that's fascinated me for a long time,and I really want to get a few to go to seed, and also to try hybridization with other Salvias or Coleus.
Someday another cutting will make its way to me in the proper time, and I'll have success when the time is right.

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[Sunshine]

Keep watering it periodically. I'd give it a 50 50 shot that it sprouts a new tip or two from the root bundle.

novoriany, we've had success here propogating Salvia from seeds. Personally I've gotten it to flower. It only requires a long daily dark period. Over 12-14 hours of darkness per day will get it to flower. I didn't have luck with the seeds thoufh.

Bubble cat iirc got some to sprout.

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[Manigordo]

GAS, you will have luck in the future, just try again!
I think we can't really reproduce the rapid changes of wet and dry that these plants experience in the cloud forest.
Whenever you "confine" their roots to a pot, they will stay humid for longer, receive less air and have less possibility to dry for a short while. This allows diseases and fungi to attack, especially when the roots are still weak and the cutting surface has not yet healed.   
Just my thoughts.....

 

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[GrowerAndaShower]

I think I read through the salvia seed thread, IIRC they thought germination was improved by letting them sit dormant for awhile. That thread is part of what inspired me to try gettting some seeds going. I really want to be the first to discover a species that'll hybridize with Salvia D. to get a little more diversity in the genetics. Cross it back with some pure divinorum a few times and possibly get an easy seeding salvia. Or not, who knows? that's the fun! Crossing it with coleus or a variegated sage to get a more visually interesting sally would be cool as well. If it looks cool enough, it could become a common houseplant!

I also want to try treating it with Colchicine or Oryzalin on a few growing tips and get a few polyploid stems(and eventually flowers) to see if it helps breeding, as I've seen suggested a few other places.   Just gotta get a good stock of plants going to do my experimentation. I'll hope this one recovers, and if not I'll try sourcing some more cuttings. I'm sure someone here could help me out with one. I'd be pumped if this one recovers, though. Somehow getting a new plant from the roots of one I almost killed seems like it'd be more satisfying than getting a new cutting. Needing a new cutting means I failed this time around, regrowing from the roots means I have an awesome beast of a salvia that came back from the dead(kinda)! 

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[novoriany]

ya Sunshine, it's very easy to obtain flower and seeds, but those seeds are steriles and didn't sprout. I got some seeds from the sage wisdom, i try to sprout them, zero success. even with gibberelic acid, different dosage: 500 ppm, 250,1000.... salvia divinorum seeds are frustrating. I read some very serious study, and it said that there is a misfunction who forbid the male gamet to arrive to the female nucleus. So there is seeds, but inside the gametes are not mixed. Daniel Siebert, the specialist of salvia divinorum, is looking for every report about seedling success.

this is his website: http://www.sagewisdom.org/

And about the diseases, for my part, it was very comon molt, who are normaly very well fight by a vegetative step plant. Sometime i see those fungus on plants in a step of mature fruiting, when the plant "know she achieve her reproduction cycle, seeds are ready and she know she can let her go and die". But it was on vegetative cycle.... i guess in the growshop and specialized greenhouse they should use some hormons to keep the original strains, but when neophytes buy some cuttings, they are often disappoint after several weeks.

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[novoriany]

this is old picture of my salvias, from begening to death.... i tried to make littles cuttings from dying mother plants, unsuccesfully

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[The Seedist]

I got some seeds from the sage wisdom, i try to sprout them, zero success. Daniel Siebert, the specialist of salvia divinorum, is looking for every report about seedling success.

You are sure wrong novoriany. Now look at mine http://sharetheseeds.me/forum/index.php?topic=2342.60 To tell you more than you do thinking about Daniel because I wrote him at once after seeds sprouted and he even didn't reply me on that news then, November 2015. It was of no interest for him as I understood, that's how it was then. My advice do not believe most written things you do usually read on others' websites.

Looked at your pictures again and know what? Did you ever think you illuminate them *ucking bad? They are crying there on your shelves but you feed them of *ucking bad lights day by day and month by month and after this you wait for great results oh my..... I guess you should died earlier if they could illuminate you the same way.

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