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Title: Cactus Graft Chimera (Informational Thread)
Post by: New Wisdom on September 17, 2013, 06:27:18 PM
Cactus Graft "Chimera"

A graft chimera is something that rarely happens and only happens in cultivation (never in nature... unless somehow two cactus fall on each other perfectly and a graft happens and the very rare chance that a chimera forms happens ;D). It is when two different cactus (grafted to each other) form into one plant becoming an entirely different plant. It is basically two plants in one body. It happens in extremely rare circumstances, usually in a commercial setting where there are several hundred grafts of the same two species. The two plants actually "fuse" together into the same body and a pup protrudes out of the point of contact between the stock and scion becoming two different species fighting it out for growth in the same body. They grow very sporadically and will show characteristics of both species at different times. I'm making this thread just to compile information that I find and so that more and more people gain interest in these amazing mutants.

Here is a better definition from "cactus-art.biz":

"Graft Chimera (synonym: Graft Hybrid) - Graft chimaera (frequently called 'graft hybrids') are cellular hybrids between representatives of two or more named genera. They are a rare phenomenon arising exclusively in cultivation where two species, frequently of two distinct genera, are grafted together.
The mingling of tissues belonging to the stock and scion through grafting in a nonsexual manner.  The chimaera come up as a branch or shoot from the point of union which contains tissues of both species, resulting in a arrangement of both species being expressed in the shoot. Such shoots can be vegetatively propagated and cultivated.
The formula for the graft-chimaeral nature of such a plants uses a “ + “ sign against the initial letter of the generic name and to connect the two "parent" species (not the multiplication sign “ X “ this show that they are not sexual hybrids). If intergeneric, graft-chimaeras can be given their own genus name (which is a combination of the two constituent generic names) preceded by a + sign. An example is:  + Ortegopuntia  (Ortegocactus macdougalii + Opuntia compressa). Graft chimaeras can be given cultivar names. The example above has been named +Ortegopuntia cv. Percy, They cannot be given species names.


(http://sharetheseeds.me/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=652.0;attach=2180;image)

+ Ortegopuntia cv. Percy  (graft-chimera)

Chimeras in the the Cactaceae family: Chimaeras of plants belonging to the Cactaceae family are very rare and quite unusual in cultivation. The first chimera + Hylocalycium (Hylocereus undatus  + Gymnocalycium mihanovichii forma rubra “cv. Red Hibotan”),  was described in cactus & succ .J. of America 1987 61- 4 2,

Recently some other chimerical cactus have been signalled in internet for example:

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More Examples:

+ Myrtillocalycium cv. POLYP (Chimera)
(Myrtillocactus geometrizans (or someteims M. cochal) + Gymnocalycium mihanovichii cv. RED HIBOTAN)
(http://sharetheseeds.me/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=652.0;attach=2168;image)
(http://sharetheseeds.me/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=652.0;attach=2170;image)
(http://sharetheseeds.me/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=652.0;attach=2172;image)
(http://sharetheseeds.me/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=652.0;attach=2174;image)

Origin:  Garden origin (Nursery produced cultivar)

Etymology: It is thought to be a graft-chimaeras between Mytillocactus geometrizans (or cochal) and Gymnocalycium mihanovichii  cv. RED HIBOTAN. Its generic name + Myrtilloclycium comes from those of its parents ("Mytillocactus" and "Gymnocalycium") A graft-chimaeras can be given their own genus name (which is a combination of the two constituent generic names) preceded by a + sign.

Description: Myrtillocalycium 'Polyp' is a graft chimera (bigeneric cactus chimaera) between Myrtillocactus geometrizans (or cochal) and Gymnocalycium cv. Red Hibotan, it is a very colourful red and green columnar cactus This plant is quite unstable and have a tendency to revert to common red Gymnocalycium shoots.

This plant is a mixture of these two plants:

Myrtillocactus geometrizans - (http://sharetheseeds.me/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=652.0;attach=2185;image)
Gymonocalycium cv. Red Hibotan - (http://sharetheseeds.me/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=652.0;attach=2186;image)



Gymnocalycium mihanovichii variegata + Hylocereus undatus
(http://sharetheseeds.me/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=652.0;attach=2187;image)



Gymnocalycium mihanovichii v. fleischerianum + Echinopsis tubiflora.
(http://sharetheseeds.me/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=652.0;attach=2176;image)



Ariocarpus retusus +  Echinopsis eyriesii
(http://sharetheseeds.me/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=652.0;attach=2178;image)



Gymnocalycium mihanovichii v. fleischerianum + Hylocereus guatamalensis
If anyone can find a picture please post it. Thanks!



Ariocarpus scapharustrus + Myrtillocactus geometrizans
(http://sharetheseeds.me/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=652.0;attach=2182;image)




If you can find anymore information or chimeras then please post them and your sources.  Thanks!

Sources:
Title: Re: Cactus Chimera (Informational Thread)
Post by: New Wisdom on September 17, 2013, 06:45:41 PM
(pictures)
Title: Re: Cactus Chimera (Informational Thread)
Post by: PhytoFlight on September 18, 2013, 05:59:33 AM
Wow, that's amazing! Thanks for posting. I don't know about how feasible it'd be to make some, but that's quite inspiring!
Title: Re: Cactus Chimera (Informational Thread)
Post by: New Wisdom on September 18, 2013, 07:32:15 AM
I don't know about how feasible it'd be to make some, but that's quite inspiring!

This is not something that anyone can just set out to do.  It'd be cheaper to just buy a clone of one.  It is a completely random process and there are not many species that are compatible (that are known anyways)  Like i said it usually happens in nurseries where there are several hundred grafts of the same two species. 

I wasn't even able to find pictures of the original offset on a chimera. I'd like o see how it happens because plants usually don't send out shoots from places other than an areole. 

Thanks for reading!
Title: Re: Cactus Chimera (Informational Thread)
Post by: prasada on September 18, 2013, 03:11:24 PM
               APPLAUSE   :D
Title: Re: Cactus Chimera (Informational Thread)
Post by: Sunshine on September 18, 2013, 09:42:27 PM
So a chimera is actually a hybrid of the 2 species? Will it produce chimera seeds?
Title: Re: Cactus Chimera (Informational Thread)
Post by: TBM on September 18, 2013, 09:47:03 PM
If it produces a viable hybrid seed, should it still be considered a chimera, or simply a new species?
Title: Re: Cactus Chimera (Informational Thread)
Post by: New Wisdom on September 18, 2013, 10:36:51 PM
I was trying to find what happens.  I'm not really sure exactly how it's made up, somebody needs to do DNA testing one some of these, but from the research i did I think that it is still technically two different plants.  Just in 1 body.  So if a flower comes off an areole that is from a myrtillocactus, it would be just that (if it even can produce viable seeds) and if it flowers off of the gymnocalycium then it would be gymnocalycium.  But I really can't say for sure. 
Title: Re: Cactus Chimera (Informational Thread)
Post by: New Wisdom on October 09, 2013, 08:25:29 PM
My chimera. I already posted in another thread, but I thought it belonged here too.
Title: Re: Cactus Chimera (Informational Thread)
Post by: Shpongle Lover on October 10, 2013, 12:55:52 PM
+1 on the karma for yet another excellent contribution to the forum.

S.L.
Title: Re: Cactus Chimera (Informational Thread)
Post by: onion on October 10, 2013, 02:51:21 PM
Another karma point from me too.  Good info, and a beautiful specimen there!   ;D

I would suggest one little clarification though...  You might want to clarify, especially in the first paragraph, that you are solely talking about graft chimeras.  Other types of chimeras can and do occur in nature, and don't require two species.

Title: Re: Cactus Chimera (Informational Thread)
Post by: New Wisdom on October 10, 2013, 03:25:20 PM
Thanks for the advise. I updated it to make it more clear what I'm talking about. 

Thanks!

New Wisdom