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Author Topic: Kanna and the gift of patience!  (Read 1152 times)

JayWise

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Kanna and the gift of patience!
« on: January 22, 2018, 03:32:04 pm »

I had basically written off some (10?) Kanna seeds I planted a couple of months ago. They had been moved out of my heated & lit area to the relegation zone on the cold windowsill, with the expectation of being cleared out completely before too long. And then, over the weekend, these popped up!



Totally botanically unrelated I know, but as fellow southern african succulents I now have a bit more hope for my Hoodia and Stapelia seeds that have been similarly languishing unloved.

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I've also finally seen a Sida cordifolia seedling after months of trying. I'd basically written them off as bunk seed and had put my little tub of Ariocarpus over the top. When I lifted it up there was a little yellow cotyledon peeking up. Which now seems to have turned green. Woo.
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Psylocke

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Re: Kanna and the gift of patience!
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2018, 12:19:16 am »

Its been a long time since Ive seen a kanna seedling, but I’m not so sure what you have there is kanna. Maybe that really tiny one is kanna?

If you’re still looking for sida come spring, I could send you a few small plants. I made the mistake of planting some in the backyard, and now I cant get rid of them.
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Re: Kanna and the gift of patience!
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2018, 03:39:05 am »

I've had trouble with aids Cordifolia, too. No luck, and I'm 2 weeks into my second attempt. Oddly enough, I had 3 rhombifolia seeds, 2 of them have germinated after a week.
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JayWise

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Re: Kanna and the gift of patience!
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2018, 01:00:38 pm »

I'm pretty sure they are kanna as they came from a reputable supplier, and you can see the husk of one of the seeds still attached to one of the seedlings (the seeds looked just like the kanna seed images I can find on the net). It also has never been in contact with any other seed sources for weeds etc.

I think it has grown quite etoliated due to low light on the windowsill (now moved to my growbox), so this may affect its look.

Will keep you posted though.

Interesting that others have had difficulty with Sida cordifolia. According to wiki it grows as a weed in lots of places! but I guess that doesn't preclude it from having quite specific germination conditions, if these are widely available in the 'wild' but not at home.
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JayWise

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Re: Kanna and the gift of patience!
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2018, 06:10:05 pm »

Well they are very slowly getting on with things, and I think we can safely say now that they def are kanna (thankfully)!
« Last Edit: February 21, 2018, 06:10:38 pm by JayWise »
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Re: Kanna and the gift of patience!
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2018, 08:06:56 pm »

How old were the seeds that you planted?  Did you pre-treat them in any way?  I have some old kanna seeds that I bought several years ago from Silverhill Seeds and thought I might give them a try. 
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Psylocke

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Re: Kanna and the gift of patience!
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2018, 12:13:37 am »

Yup, definitely sceletium ;D

Be sure not to subject them to any rapid changes in temp or humidity. Room temp is ideal. They are very well suited for growing in a sunny windowsill. Keep fairly moist in well drained media, but don’t over-water. Other than that, as you said, its just an exercise in patience.
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JayWise

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Re: Kanna and the gift of patience!
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2018, 10:01:28 pm »

How old were the seeds that you planted?  Did you pre-treat them in any way?  I have some old kanna seeds that I bought several years ago from Silverhill Seeds and thought I might give them a try.

Well I only bought them in October but I dont know how old they were then... i didnt pretreat them, just sowed them straight.
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Re: Kanna and the gift of patience!
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2018, 10:16:16 pm »

Good work.

You might want to try Delosperma bosseranum that is said to have similar alkaloids.
This one is much more easy to take care and are a surviver even if neglected.

I also want try grow kanna and have ordered some seeds just a few days ago.
It is said to have a quite good effect for an etnobotanical plant.
Will be intresting.
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JayWise

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Re: Kanna and the gift of patience!
« Reply #9 on: March 29, 2018, 07:43:08 pm »

I tried to grow D. bosseranum but none germinated! I have a D. cooperi though, which are apparently pretty UK hardy. Planning on putting together a rock garden this year so Im hoping that one can live outside. My kanna are in the conservatory now - and a third one has popped up! They are progressing nicely, if slowly...
So for anyone growing kanna from seed, yes, don't be afraid to wait quite a while for germination...You could still be in luck.
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Re: Kanna and the gift of patience!
« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2018, 11:01:36 pm »

I planted some Kanna seeds a few days ago and they have already sprouted!
« Last Edit: March 30, 2018, 09:06:54 pm by koacaia »
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JayWise

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Re: Kanna and the gift of patience!
« Reply #11 on: March 29, 2018, 11:44:28 pm »

Maybe my seeds were old or its a climate thing?
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Re: Kanna and the gift of patience!
« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2018, 04:43:01 pm »

I tried to grow D. bosseranum but none germinated!
There's your problem. Every time I try to grow them. It never works out. However, I just found several tiny bosseranum seedlings growing with one of my cacti after a winter with very little water as I was moving it outdoors. And I don't even remember growing any last year. I'd say, just surface sow some seeds in with something that doesn't need much water and forget about them. Eventually, they will appear.
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Re: Kanna and the gift of patience!
« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2018, 10:13:04 pm »

Relatively fresh D. bosseranum seeds germinate readily in a few days. I have a bunch of seedlings, and sowed some leftover seeds literally 4 days ago and I'm seeing tiny sprouts already. Just surfaced sow and keep humid at first. The seeds were harvested by an online friend about 6 months ago.

Added a pic of a couple ~10 months old Kanna seedlings (in my hand), versus my motherplant I started from a cutting about a year ago.


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JayWise

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Re: Kanna and the gift of patience!
« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2018, 12:10:51 am »

Still having no luck with D. bosseranum seeds.

Kanna coming on nicely though! (This pic is from a few weeks back and they are all quite a bit bigger now)

« Last Edit: May 09, 2018, 12:11:47 am by JayWise »
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