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Author Topic: Starting nursery, woodrosegrove, tips appreciated :)  (Read 1595 times)

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Starting nursery, woodrosegrove, tips appreciated :)
« on: August 06, 2017, 11:50:06 pm »

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Re: Starting nursery, woodrosegrove, tips appreciated :)
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2017, 10:37:10 pm »



You may need to get a retailers permit from your state in order to sell anything legally.

I like the idea of running a farmers market.... except for when you talk to market masters, it seems like it can be incredibly frustrating dealing with vendors and keeping things organized, so i personally wouldn't try to do both at the same time.

If you really want to get into it, I very much suggest talking to someone who is running a farmers market already, a lot of times it is one person, but then he has volunteers who help out. The one i am thinking of that is a solo show,only has one person doing all of it, is very disorganized and difficult to communicate with.

for online sales, you will need to make sure that the plants you are selling into other states aren't restricted or invasive species.

definitely love the entrepreneurship, Good luck!

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Re: Starting nursery, woodrosegrove, tips appreciated :)
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2017, 03:51:02 am »

From a strictly economic perspective, get in (or better start your own) CSA, its like a book of the month club for veggies and I have seen these really carry the overhead and more for local hobby farms in my area.

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Re: Starting nursery, woodrosegrove, tips appreciated :)
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2017, 02:55:03 am »

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Re: Starting nursery, woodrosegrove, tips appreciated :)
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2017, 01:30:17 am »

a couple days ago when the temps got in the 30'sF.. got the garden moved into newly fixed up greenhouse..
...moving this weekend! yyayy 8)


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Re:re woodrosegrove, update :)
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2019, 02:18:39 am »

many many trees fell last hurricane, we got them mostly cleared up.. starting on new greenhouse soon!


hoop house about 20 x 50
around sides and in the middle is raised fish pond (maybe 2' x 2')
above middle pond section, is an aeroponic system
( large hanging pvc pipes with water spayed inside them drips back into pond)
fish help fertilize plants, and the spray drip aerates the water for fishes..
raised ponds also provide a 'heat sink effect' helping stabilize temps.
the green lines in the picture are raised grow beds about 1-2' wide.

geothermal tubing 8 feet underground, will keep it cool in summer, and warm in winter..
one question i have is how much tubing i need underground?
i saw a utube video that said the equation is 'square feet divided by 10 = tube length'
so 20 X 50 = 1000 % 10 = 100' 
100 feet seems pretty short to me, but probably ill at least use 200'

also have optional 'double layer bubble' greenhouse, if needed, but we have mild winters here, it might not be needed.
(double layer is way to keep temps from freezing, by wrapping greenhouse airtight twice, then inflating the two layers)
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Re: Starting nursery, woodrosegrove, tips appreciated :)
« Reply #6 on: December 03, 2019, 09:53:54 pm »

? what about high moisture levels from fish ponds causing mold or rot ?
in theory the geothermal drain pipe should collect extra moisture from the air and condense and drain underground.
raised beds tipping over? sounds like a nightmare..
in this design grow-boxes are a 1' tall wood frame boxes with open bottoms, the fish pond is 2' frame sealed bottom.

i guess ive calculated the square feet wrong.. maybe needed to multiply height also: width X length X height  =
20 X 50 X 10 = 10,000 % 10 = 1,000'... dang 1000 feet of 4"drain pipe (price:100'75$) = 750$
but the curve of the dome removes some square footage, so it wouldn't need 1000'... i think more like 600'-800'

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Re: Starting nursery, woodrosegrove, tips appreciated :)
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2019, 01:35:51 am »

Regarding mold / rot / algea ... and your hydro/aeroponic setup in general: How easy is it to balance the system so one neither runs the risk of starving the fish and plants or causing eutrophy to go way over the top ? Am I correct that the system needs dialling in and perhaps continuous adjustment by controlling the number of plants and/or fish ?
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Re: Starting nursery, woodrosegrove, tips appreciated :)
« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2019, 12:56:15 am »

idk it will be learning process for me.. i think it should be pretty easy, or as difficult as one wants to make it.
on side ponds, i plan to cover with boards which help reduce light and algae, also provides a place for pots.

at first it was just a pond around the edge, for heat sink in the wasted space along the sides,
then i figured why not have fish and aeroponics, and fill up some wasted space in the middle.

the main thing for keeping fish is that they have enough oxygen, 
with aeroponics going all day, there should be plenty of oxygen..
i also think plants will get plenty of nutrients, but we shall see :)
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Re: Starting nursery, woodrosegrove, tips appreciated :)
« Reply #9 on: Today at 01:09:05 am »

still in the planning stage for greenhouse considering other geothermal systems..
anyways
so there's a pvc pipe stickin up where a well pump used to be under some bushes,
it's bad spot to put the green house, or anything, but i wonder whats down there..

so last night i tied a string to plastic bottle, lowered down hole i guess about 80ft,
there is some water but not deep, because i put rocks in the bottle to help it sink,
soon as i hear it hit water it stops dropping down, so it must be mostly dried up??

well i got about a cup of water.. it had something in it.. at first i think a dead spider,
but no it has a tiny tail, it's a little tiny cave crab! though sadly it was already dead.


Female cave crab (Cerberusa tipula)


my question is: Does that suggest the well hole is connected to larger cave system?

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