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Author Topic: New psychoactive Salvia species with Salvinorin A & B discovered!  (Read 27459 times)

BubbleCat

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Re: New psychoactive Salvia species with Salvinorin A & B discovered!
« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2017, 10:45:27 AM »

Since someone hmu on easy S G and S R seeds I have checked pricing, as suggested stuff is ridicolous.

Can have:

190 seeds of S G for 1,50 € (in stock for the time being)
80 seeds of SR for 5,60 € (in stock at the time being)

Ordered both, will probably split in half, send one half over the big pond for distribution and distribute the other here.
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Re: New psychoactive Salvia species with Salvinorin A & B discovered!
« Reply #16 on: August 03, 2017, 11:58:35 PM »


Thanks Auxin for the important reference. Maybe this can be important in future.


I so knew I'm right on setting out to collect possibly ALL salviae !

The Salvia species are really very interesting. Many have pain suppressing properties. Especially when you make extracts from them. Recently, the ethanolic extract of aerial part of salvia aethiopis exhibited in tests moderate to weak activity towards delta and kappa opioid receptors.

Salvia guaranitica contains Cirsiliol which has soothing and hypnotic properties in pure form like benzodiazepines.
Other species are no less interesting. It comes a lot more in future.

I thought this study would be of interest to those researching de novo
analgesia in salvias, as well as shine some light on the vastly under-researched kappa opioid receptor network and how it plays with the rest of the brain.

 http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0091305705004004

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0006322307007366
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Re: New psychoactive Salvia species with Salvinorin A & B discovered!
« Reply #17 on: August 04, 2017, 12:44:32 AM »

Go BC, making things happen! I'm not gonna ask for some, with so few and all I've got on my plate I wouldn't wanna risk failing with them :P

But once y'all establish them and get propagation figured out, I'd love to get one. Probably gonna wait until I can keep Sally D and Sally officinalis alive first (I can clone Mimosa, which is supposed to be hard, but I can't keep sages alive...)
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Re: New psychoactive Salvia species with Salvinorin A & B discovered!
« Reply #18 on: August 04, 2017, 03:33:14 AM »

Since someone hmu on easy S G and S R seeds I have checked pricing, as suggested stuff is ridicolous.

Can have:

190 seeds of S G for 1,50 € (in stock for the time being)
80 seeds of SR for 5,60 € (in stock at the time being)

Ordered both, will probably split in half, send one half over the big pond for distribution and distribute the other here.

hy BC, that is a better price then i found.. Ordered from ebay glutinosa 4$30 and recognita4$20..
So if you want i would purchase/trade some from you, or goup buy, or something let me know,  :)
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Re: New psychoactive Salvia species with Salvinorin A & B discovered!
« Reply #19 on: August 04, 2017, 11:25:33 AM »

Salvia G arrived, at 10 seeds per request i can make about 80 members happy. Also taking double and tripple orders for those serious and wanting to avoid genetic bottlenecks.

The other Sally is in the making. I'll set up a giveaway and link here and back.

http://sharetheseeds.me/forum/index.php?topic=4855.0
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Re: New psychoactive Salvia species with Salvinorin A & B discovered!
« Reply #20 on: August 05, 2017, 04:02:17 AM »

Salvia G arrived, at 10 seeds per request i can make about 80 members happy. Also taking double and tripple orders for those serious and wanting to avoid genetic bottlenecks.

The other Sally is in the making. I'll set up a giveaway and link here and back.

http://sharetheseeds.me/forum/index.php?topic=4855.0

I'll take a quadruple order, while you're at it 8)
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Re: New psychoactive Salvia species with Salvinorin A & B discovered!
« Reply #21 on: August 05, 2017, 07:32:41 PM »

I'd be interested.
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Re: New psychoactive Salvia species with Salvinorin A & B discovered!
« Reply #22 on: March 24, 2018, 11:18:21 PM »

To my way of thinking this is a good thing and there are 2 major ways of exploiting it

1. Grow massive quantities of the species and extract the salvinorin.

2. Using gene modification insert the genes for salvinorin into other plants or back into salvia plants which are hardy.

#1 will work if extraction is not that hard and if large amounts of biomass can be grown quickly and easily. You don't want to wait years for a few milligrams of salvinorin. Possibly graft it onto hardy rootstock? Hydroponics maybe?

#2 is not that far out. There are many labs doing gene splicing work on plants and animals. It would cost something to do it and there is no guarantee the sal production will be high and remain high. It may fade out after time or with lots of cloning

Sometimes genes inserted into a cell remain robust and are found in the offspring when the cell divides. But as in the case of bacteria which produce morphine, insulin or other drugs, the trait is rapidly lost and the bacteria must be replaced constantly. Since saliva produces it naturally, it may be that this would carry over well into clones or even seeds.

Some day we will be able to buy gene splicing kits for perhaps $1000 or less and do it ourselves. Making all sorts of drugs, thc, cbd, etc and etc. Since gene splicing to create drugs is an industry now, the technology is there, its just a matter of tapping into it. Anyone know a mad scientist who might be interested?
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Re: New psychoactive Salvia species with Salvinorin A & B discovered!
« Reply #23 on: March 27, 2018, 05:41:56 PM »

Super interesting! If anyone wants a copy, you are welcome to pm me
Want a copy, pmed you.

Anyone know a mad scientist who might be interested?
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Re: New psychoactive Salvia species with Salvinorin A & B discovered!
« Reply #24 on: March 28, 2018, 01:32:24 AM »

dang, are any of these still around, particularly the ones with salvinorin b? looking for savlia potentillifolia, but only found one site that doesn't ship to my country (US).
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Re: New psychoactive Salvia species with Salvinorin A & B discovered!
« Reply #25 on: March 28, 2018, 11:00:47 PM »

but only found one site
Website name please.
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Re: New psychoactive Salvia species with Salvinorin A & B discovered!
« Reply #26 on: March 29, 2018, 08:57:31 AM »

Thought I'd post a couple of my S. recognita seedlings that pulled through winter mostly unharmed if a little etiolated:
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Re: New psychoactive Salvia species with Salvinorin A & B discovered!
« Reply #28 on: June 29, 2018, 02:32:43 PM »

...loving those seedlings by the way MG!
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Re: New psychoactive Salvia species with Salvinorin A & B discovered!
« Reply #29 on: June 29, 2018, 06:00:30 PM »

The Salvia glutinosa(sp?) seeds I had gotten at some point last year were unfortunately crushed on arrival. Wish I coulda got them going. Only like two seeds were uncrushed but must have been damaged as they never sprouted. Better vibes next round.
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