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Author Topic: Harvard claims to have proven the #1 cause for bees disappearing  (Read 1930 times)

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Re: Harvard claims to have proven the #1 cause for bees disappearing
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2015, 08:28:55 pm »

Thank you
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Re: Harvard claims to have proven the #1 cause for bees disappearing
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2015, 08:59:01 pm »

For some reason the link tells me the site is down. What was it? GMOs? Modern agriculture practices?
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Re: Harvard claims to have proven the #1 cause for bees disappearing
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2015, 09:05:24 pm »

Basically the later, the mass deployment of pesticides that are said to not hurt bees ... hurt bees in the end... who would have guessed :D

I checked, my link does so too right now. Well maybe one day we will see if this is the last word or its other problems or the combination of many issues ... but I always have a hard time when they dump any kind of poisons anywhere and claim "this will exclusively hurt our target (whos vitality basically relies on the same principles as everyone elses).

http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/press-releases/study-strengthens-link-between-neonicotinoids-and-collapse-of-honey-bee-colonies/
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Re: Harvard claims to have proven the #1 cause for bees disappearing
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2015, 05:38:21 am »

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Re: Harvard claims to have proven the #1 cause for bees disappearing
« Reply #5 on: June 07, 2016, 08:29:00 am »

I just read the article from the original lin k.
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Re: Harvard claims to have proven the #1 cause for bees disappearing
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2016, 12:05:11 am »

i just shared your link with all my friends thank you!!!!
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Re: Harvard claims to have proven the #1 cause for bees disappearing
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2016, 12:57:06 am »

I used to swear by imidicloprid as a general purpose systemic. Now I mostly use it only indoors for controlling fungus gnats. Kind of a shame. It's a great insecticide, except for the taking us to the brink of destruction part.
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Re: Harvard claims to have proven the #1 cause for bees disappearing
« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2017, 03:48:07 am »

whenever these stories are written they are always about the bees and never mention bees wax

as I understand bees and wax they constantly recycle the wax and even steal it from other hives when the robbing goes on and when some circumstance of the colony failing leaves wax subject to theft.

also as I understand things toxins find their way into wax and concentrate over time

why not a situation where poisons of sub lethal doses concentrate into the wax until they do become lethal - and the hive collapses?

I'd be surprised that scientists have not looked at this but I've never seen it addressed in anything I've had time to read
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Re: Harvard claims to have proven the #1 cause for bees disappearing
« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2017, 05:15:29 am »

There is hope!! Paul Stemets has a plan.

http://fantasticfungi.com/paul-stamets-save-the-bees/

He starts talking about the bees about 10 minutes in, but the whole video is worth a watch!
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Re: Harvard claims to have proven the #1 cause for bees disappearing
« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2017, 01:38:42 am »

I've been having a conversation this weekend with someone who seems knowledgeable about bees (many in my area are). I must note they are knowledgeable about the european honey bee, not wild bees or other honey bees that may be less understood and researched and actually my first concern along with other wild insects.

The theory above was dismissed by the person, claiming bees steal or recycle only food. The wax is produced by bees in early stages of development before they become airborne. This would means acquiring wax from anywhere is impossible for them, consequently they produce all themselves. That is what I have been told but I have bo idea which is right. I've also been told that the tests to determine if sth. is 'bee safe' are way too short of a period to be conclusive. Basically if its not insta-kill its 'safe' ... as safe as a high daily dose of radiation :/

I want to add tho that wax is fatty so all fat soluble poison (like many of those used) will have a strong tendency towards the wax. Most species are most vulnerable during early stages of development and the bee been born in the wax would mean it indeed is one of the major problems. 
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